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85,000 reasons why Apple’s iPhone isn’t going to be disrupted
Scobleizer ^ | OCTOBER 25, 2009 | by ROBERT SCOBLE

Posted on 10/25/2009 11:25:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: hawkeye101

Those maps remind me of recent election maps.


21 posted on 10/26/2009 1:03:59 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe

Any broadband map looks like an election map. The liberal urban areas have more broadband access. The conservative rural areas have less.


22 posted on 10/26/2009 1:46:09 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: hawkeye101
Perhaps you'd be interested in this :

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2009/10/19/verizon-tests-cdma-iphone-on-their-4g-lte-network/

23 posted on 10/26/2009 2:08:26 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple approached Verizon as their first choice. Verizon was not interested. AT&T was.

I wonder if there is a former director of new product development at Verizon who kicks himself fifty times a day.

24 posted on 10/26/2009 2:16:19 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Swordmaker

bookmark


25 posted on 10/26/2009 2:48:22 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Swordmaker
I recall the “good old days” when the Lotus 123 application made sales of the first PCs take off. The availability of all these killer applications is what is driving sales of iPhones. History repeats itself.
26 posted on 10/26/2009 3:14:20 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: hawkeye101

Good, now, where’s they map of angry former Verizon customers who won’t ever buy anything from Verizon again because they were screwed. Oh, wait, it’s the same map. (And I’m on it. I loved the triple billing they used.)

Remember, Apple offered the iPhone to Verizon first. Verizon said no.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 3:28:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ccmay

Word is (I have a friend that works for VZ) that the person responsible was actually promoted for ‘avoiding the need to upgrade the network to support the iPhone.’

Verizon is all kinds of screwed up.


28 posted on 10/26/2009 3:30:02 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Given the current idiocy from VZ regarding their new Droid phone and its ad campaign, I would assume that the report is incorrect and that VZ will get the iPhone about the time hell freezes over.


29 posted on 10/26/2009 3:31:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: hawkeye101; Swordmaker
Verizon Wireless
5X More 3G Coverage
Looking at the AT&T coverage map it strikes me that it's no mistake that AT&T's 3G coverage area is color-coded blue.

It's a dead ringer for the 2000 Gore county map . . .


30 posted on 10/26/2009 3:37:55 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: ccmay
Apple approached Verizon as their first choice. Verizon was not interested. AT&T was.
I wonder if there is a former director of new product development at Verizon who kicks himself fifty times a day.
Perhaps not . . . the Wall Street Journal had an article about the profitability of the iPhone to AT&T, net of subsidy for the purchase of the iPhone hardware - and it wasn't all roses.

31 posted on 10/26/2009 3:45:11 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: dayglored
the iPhone has a few years of support research, libraries, APIs, etc. that the others don't.

As I understand it, Android uses and Droid will use Java. Java has been around for a while, has crazy amounts of code out there...and crazy amounts of developers. The graphs on this page compares Java and Objective C on misc usage stats and such. I am not sure about all of the ways/reasons they measured this (each graph has a brief explanation). Bottom line - there is a WHOLE LOT more java code/developers out there than there are Objective C. (There are better comparisons, cant find my links, but you will get the idea (and I think you already know most/all of this, just wanted to say it in general)).

That said, I just downloaded the iPhone sdk and have started working on learning how to write apps. As a Verizon customer, I don't have an iPhone, but I have an iTouch, and think the device is incredible. And it won't do much of what the phone will do...

32 posted on 10/26/2009 5:04:50 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Swordmaker

I am one of the unreasonable iPhone users. I don’t see anyone doing anything to get me to switch. LOVE IT!


33 posted on 10/26/2009 5:15:29 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: hawkeye101

I am not much on anything Apple but aside from that - the map says everything - those iphone losers standing next to me trying to get something to work...

Its pretty funny


34 posted on 10/26/2009 5:18:44 AM PDT by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: Swordmaker; All

When will there be a ruggedized iPhone that I can carry with me at a construction site and not worry about bashing the screen out, etc?


35 posted on 10/26/2009 5:29:47 AM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: Swordmaker
There’s nothing geeks love more than to argue mobile phone platforms.

Real geeks prefer vi/emacs debates.

36 posted on 10/26/2009 7:09:20 AM PDT by zeugma (The pluiral of anecdote is not data.)
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To: Patrsup

Actually, it doesn’t say much. Verizon has a bigger 3G network than ATT, but they have lots of holes in it and per my users sometimes it just plain doesn’t work - and there’s no real 2G fallback for VZ.

Meanwhile, while ATT’s 3G network is a lot smaller, they have damn near universal coverage on 2G - and the iPhone can downshift.

Quite often my users with iPhones are the only ones on site with usable signal, when they’re out on rural construction jobs.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 7:25:10 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: OKSooner
When will there be a ruggedized iPhone that I can carry with me at a construction site and not worry about bashing the screen out, etc?

That would be useful. I've heard that the iphone is already moderately water-resistant.

If there is a need, someone out there will fill it.

38 posted on 10/26/2009 7:34:23 AM PDT by zeugma (The pluiral of anecdote is not data.)
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To: zeugma; Swordmaker
>> There’s nothing geeks love more than to argue mobile phone platforms.

> Real geeks prefer vi/emacs debates.

"vi"? "emacs"?? Dude, the real geek's editor is "cat >", or maybe "ed" if you're feeling lazy... There's no debating that... ;-)

There's a great xkcd cartoon on that...

39 posted on 10/26/2009 7:52:40 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: hawkeye101

That map is indeed a striking comparison.

A pity then that Verizon wrecked its image (at least to me) by crippling good phones. I was psyched about getting a Razr - then discovered that Verizon had redone the OS/GUI to downgrade the user experience (in the name of “making all Verizon phones work the same” - not realizing I don’t want to use another phone (and can cope with differences if I switched), I wanted a _RAZR_) and to charge users for use of free built-in capabilities (stripping out Bluetooth file transfer of photos, requiring me to either _pay_ to transfer photos to my PC or to use the PITA microSD card transfer method).

Sorry, Verizon just crossed the line too far by showing outright contempt for users. Yeah, ATT has their issues too, but I’m done with the red V.


40 posted on 10/26/2009 8:04:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Obamacare violates the 4th Amendment.)
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