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The Crusades: When Christendom Pushed Back
The New American ^ | 2/5/10 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/06/2010 6:37:51 AM PST by Paladins Prayer

The year is 732 A.D., and Europe is under assault. Islam, born a mere 110 years earlier, is already in its adolescence, and the Muslim Moors are on the march.

Growing in leaps and bounds, the Caliphate, as the Islamic realm is known, has thus far subdued much of Christendom, conquering the old Christian lands of the Mideast and North Africa in short order. Syria and Iraq fell in 636; Palestine in 638; and Egypt, which was not even an Arab land, fell in 642. North Africa, also not Arab, was under Muslim control by 709. Then came the year 711 and the Moors’ invasion of Europe, as they crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and entered Visigothic Iberia (now Spain and Portugal). And the new continent brought new successes to Islam. Conquering the Iberian Peninsula by 718, the Muslims crossed the Pyrenees Mountains into Gaul (now France) and worked their way northward. And now, in 732, they are approaching Tours, a mere 126 miles from Paris.

The Moorish leader, Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi, is supremely confident of success. He is in the vanguard of the first Muslim crusade, and his civilization has enjoyed rapidity and scope of conquest heretofore unseen in world history. He is at the head of an enormous army, replete with heavy cavalry, and views the Europeans as mere barbarians. In contrast, the barbarians facing him are all on foot, a tremendous disadvantage. The only thing the Frankish and Burgundian European forces have going for them is their leader, Charles of Herstal, grandfather of Charlemagne. He is a brilliant military tactician who, after losing his very first battle, is enjoying an unbroken 16-year streak of victories.

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: caliphate; christianity; crusades; godsgravesglyphs; islam; muslim; thecaliphate; tna
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This is a great piece that explains the truth about the Crusades and why we should view the Crusaders as heroes.
1 posted on 02/06/2010 6:37:51 AM PST by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

Read Later


2 posted on 02/06/2010 6:41:32 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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And when we became dominant militarily again we were “modern” and no longer cared about recovering lost lands for Christendom.


3 posted on 02/06/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Paladins Prayer
We face the same enemy today.

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Sura (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

The Koran and hadiths are replete with examples of Muhammad's barbaric behavior. Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.

4 posted on 02/06/2010 6:42:12 AM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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The article gives very short shrift to the thousands of Jews slaughterd by these crusaders....

But then, the winners write the history; the losers live it.

5 posted on 02/06/2010 6:44:20 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.)
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You are giving short shrift to the support and alliance that many Jews made with the Muslims. Take a look at the history of Spain and the history of Jews as administrators for the Muslims over the Christian population.


6 posted on 02/06/2010 6:46:23 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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Perhaps one should research the European Crusades and Inquisitions before painting such an heroic picture.

And yes, European Jews were slaughtered, along with Christians who would not bend a knee to Rome, and would not submit to Rome’s creed... For 1200+ years...


7 posted on 02/06/2010 6:51:35 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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The Jews in Moslem Spain were kept in a subservient role.

Moslems and Christians swapped principalities back and forth and were loathe to do more than allow Jews into the castle to read and write stuff for them.

8 posted on 02/06/2010 6:59:57 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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his civilization has enjoyed rapidity and scope of conquest heretofore unseen in world history.

Nonsense. The Huns, Alexander and others conquered much more rapidly.

The big difference is in the generally permanent nature of Muslim conquest. The Huns came and went. Muslims changed the societies they conqured.

9 posted on 02/06/2010 7:03:04 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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You’ve boiled a 1,000 years of history into that statement? Jews were administrators of whole provinces for absentee Muslim overlords in some cases, persecuted by moslems in others. I think there is massive ignorance of a very long history and snap judgments are made on extraordinarily limited facts. Basically, it’s polemics; trolls and the ignorant throw out some fact that supports some prejudice that they have.


10 posted on 02/06/2010 7:06:25 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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11 posted on 02/06/2010 7:07:38 AM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Logic n' Reason

You obviously did not read the entire article with an open. mind. The plight of the Jews was mentioned, and explained as a renegade group that was out of control, much like some members of the US Army have been out of control during the Iraq War.

The Crusades were a reactionary movement to preseve Christian Europe from the advancement of Islam. It was primarily defensive in nature.


12 posted on 02/06/2010 7:08:02 AM PST by Gumdrop
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From the article: As for conversion, the Crusaders were warriors, not missionaries. They had no interest in converting Muslims; in fact, I doubt the notion ever entered their minds. They viewed the Muslims as enemies of God and His Church and a threat to Christendom, nothing more, nothing less. Treating this matter in a piece entitled “The Crusades: separating myth from reality,” Zenit cited medieval history expert Dr. Franco Cardini and wrote:

“The Crusades,” says Cardini, “were never ‘religious wars,’ their purpose was not to force conversions or suppress the infidel.” … To describe the Crusade as a “Holy War” against the Moslems is misleading, says Cardini: “The real interest in these expeditions, in service of Christian brethren threatened by Moslems, was the restoration of peace in the East, and the early stirring of the idea of rescue for distant fellow-Christians.”
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I know that Francis of Assisi went and actually had an audience with a Sultan during the Crusades to try to convert him. Francis was respected and allowed to leave in peace. Francis was probably the exception in this case, but worth mentioning. I doubt he was the only one who tried to proselytize.


13 posted on 02/06/2010 7:16:18 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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marked. thanks.


14 posted on 02/06/2010 7:17:09 AM PST by SMCC1
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To: Paladins Prayer

Great article. Thanks for the post. One historian referred to the 4th Crusade’s sacking of Constantinople as “the greatest crime in history.”


15 posted on 02/06/2010 7:17:58 AM PST by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
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Very good article by Selwyn Duke. Thanks for posting.


16 posted on 02/06/2010 7:19:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Woebama
You are giving short shrift to the support and alliance that many Jews made with the Muslims.

The Jews allied themselves with Muslims for the very logical reason that Muslims of the time treated them much better than Christians did.

Crusaders slaughtered Jews in Europe and the Middle East for equally logical reasons. While the Pope and kings may have had the geopolitical motives discussed by the author, most of the Crusaders intended to just kill the enemies of God. Why travel all the way to Palestine to kill Muslims when Jews, equally the enemies of God, are right here in Germany?

The author is, however, absolutely right about the counter-attack nature of the Crusades. In fact, the Crusades were an incorporation of the idea of jihad into Christianity. That this took 400 years to occur is a result of the fact that jihad just doesn't fit well into Christianity.

The author also leaves out that the Crusades were a minor irritant on the edge of the Muslim world. Most Muslims were unaffected and unconcerned.

The Mongol invasions during the same time were catastrophic, dang near destroying Islam.

17 posted on 02/06/2010 7:20:35 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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Bookmark for later. Fascinating article and answers so many questions.


18 posted on 02/06/2010 7:20:35 AM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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Good article, thank you.


19 posted on 02/06/2010 7:24:49 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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“...the truth about the Crusades and why we should view the Crusaders as heroes.”

Crusades II are having birthing pains right now in Tennessee, this one will retake America as the original Crusades took back the souls and property of Christianity plundered by muslim jihad long ago


20 posted on 02/06/2010 7:28:17 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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