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This Day in Civil War History October 16th, 1859 John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry
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Posted on 10/16/2010 4:28:16 AM PDT by mainepatsfan

Civil War

Oct 16, 1859:

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry

Abolitionist John Brown leads a small group on a raid against an arsenal in Harpers Ferry, Virginia, in an attempt to incite an insurrection and destroy the institution of slavery.

Born in Connecticut in 1800 and raised in Ohio, Brown came from a staunchly Calvinist and antislavery family. He spent much of his life failing at a variety of businesses--he declared bankruptcy at age 42 and had more than 20 lawsuits filed against him. In 1837, his life changed irrevocably when he attended an abolition meeting in Cleveland, during which he was so moved that he publicly announced his dedication to destroying the institution of slavery. As early as 1848 he was formulating a plan to incite an insurrection, and he shared the idea with Frederick Douglass.

In the 1850s, Brown traveled to Kansas with five of his sons to fight against the proslavery forces in the contest over that territory. On May 21, 1856, proslavery men raided the abolitionist town of Lawrence, and Brown personally sought revenge. On May 25, Brown and his sons attacked three cabins along Pottawatomie Creek. They killed five men with broad swords and triggered a summer of guerilla warfare in the troubled territory. One of Brown's sons was killed in the fighting.

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To: BroJoeK

Hurrah, Hurrah!
For Southern Rights, Hurrah!
Hurrah foe the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star!


101 posted on 10/17/2010 7:05:08 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
"Hurrah, Hurrah!
For Southern Rights, Hurrah!"

"Southern Rights" to own slaves were abolished by the Civil War, a war the South brought on itself.

102 posted on 10/17/2010 8:10:43 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

“”Southern Rights” to own slaves were abolished by the Civil War, a war the South brought on itself.”

Don’t get so cocky, Round2 may be just around the corner.


103 posted on 10/17/2010 8:31:57 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

Only a friggin fool would be cheering on such a thing.


104 posted on 10/17/2010 8:36:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now)
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To: mainepatsfan

bttt


105 posted on 10/17/2010 9:05:08 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: mojitojoe
Find them yourself lazy a$$.

In other words you're lying again.

106 posted on 10/18/2010 4:13:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: mojitojoe
If everyone on FR that saved, checked out or sent others posts from other FReepers was a stalker then I guess FR is mostly composed of them.

But you seem to be the only one strange enough to want to do that.

107 posted on 10/18/2010 4:18:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: BnBlFlag; rockrr
BnBlFlag: "Don’t get so cocky, Round2 may be just around the corner."

rockrr: "Only a friggin fool would be cheering on such a thing."

Constitutionally, states can secede the same way they enter the Union: by applying to, and waiting for the approval of Congress.

No doubt, Congress would want to negotiate such matters as the states' appropriate shares of the National Debt and other legal obligations ($13 trillion for starters, plus many times that amount for such items as Social Security and Medicare), national defense assets (i.e. aircraft carriers, etc.), international trade agreements, and the disposition of Federal property in the states' territory.

Of course, before any states might apply to secede, they'd want to make certain they had enough votes on their side in Congress to approve secession.

But then, if they had enough votes to approve secession, wouldn't they also have enough votes to abolish whatever major grievances they hold against the Union?

And, if that all sounds like just too much work, and too much bother, then they could do it the "easy way" instead -- just like the Confederacy in 1861.
They could simply declare themselves independent, and start a war to prove it.

And after they lost again then they could spend the following centuries rewriting and falsifying history.

I mean, it was so much fun the first time around, why not enjoy a Round 2?
After all, didn't that work really well for the Germans after World War One?

;-)

108 posted on 10/18/2010 7:43:25 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Lincoln's opposition was borne of expedience in time of war. There are ample historical quotes and cites to verify this as fact.

That is simply not true. Lincoln thought slavery to be wrong from his earliest known writings. I have seen the so-called 'historical quotes' you cite, and they are all taken totally out of context.

Barack Obama himself admits that The Emancipation Proclamation was a military document.

Lincoln himself said the same. As president, he had no power to end slavery, and he acknowledged that only a Constitutional amendment could do that. But as Commander in Chief in time of war, he did have the power to seize and dispose enemy 'property' as militarily necessary. The property he seized were the slaves and his disposition of them was freedom.

109 posted on 10/18/2010 8:10:38 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: mojitojoe
You should have a very large disclaimer on that post.

ALL QUOTES TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

110 posted on 10/18/2010 8:15:26 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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