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You've Got To Be Kidding Me (Obama's Birth Certificate)
Market Ticker ^ | April 27, 2011 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 04/27/2011 12:48:33 PM PDT by PGR88

Here's someone who has looked at the Obama COLB released today and believes its a fake.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: certifigate; certifigate2; conspiracy; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacolb; officialbcrelease
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1 posted on 04/27/2011 12:48:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

It is a tar baby.


2 posted on 04/27/2011 12:50:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: PGR88

Safari can’t open the page “http://market-ticker.org/post=185094”;. The error was: “Operation could not be completed. (kCFErrorDomainCFNetwork error 302.)” (kCFErrorDomainCFNetwork:302) Please choose Report Bugs to Apple from the Safari menu, note the error number, and describe what you did before you saw this message.


3 posted on 04/27/2011 12:53:00 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: PGR88

fake or not doesn’t matter.

it’s the stick in the sand that says 0bama’s baby daddy was ‘african’ (which is not a term used in 1961, as it could be any race). it also shows 0bama’s baby daddy to be kenyan when 0bama was born.

this would fail the requirement for natural born. the document would prove he is a ‘citizen’ (assuming its not a fake). but it only highlights the fact that 0bama was born ‘british by descent’ and American.

obviously, you cannot be natural born while having dual citizenship status.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 12:53:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: PGR88

looks like Denninger’s server is getting slammed.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 1:01:27 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: sten

The statement of “african” shows its fake and a mistake any 3rd grader should have been aware of. The only choices at that time were white, black or asian.

Sum-buddy didn’t do their homework before forging this.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 1:01:37 PM PDT by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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To: PGR88; All

this comes up, but pics did not

http://market-ticker.org/


7 posted on 04/27/2011 1:02:19 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: PGR88
The BC has LAYERS! See the video: http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/

Also, just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC:

“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI: The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org]

8 posted on 04/27/2011 1:03:16 PM PDT by PBinTX
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To: sten

Barack’s daddy was a bigamist. The marriage was null and void.

Does he still have a legal claim to the “family” name?


9 posted on 04/27/2011 1:04:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: Godebert

Odd - the link works for me (with Safari). But very slow now....


10 posted on 04/27/2011 1:04:44 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: PBinTX
“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

That's okay, the forged national guard memo showed us that you can superimpose someone's signature on another document and no one will ever be pressed to discover "who did that?".

11 posted on 04/27/2011 1:06:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: PBinTX

Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark.


12 posted on 04/27/2011 1:08:54 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Godebert

I cant post the pic PNG and jpeg images on other forums too. The last pic which has been clearly altered is frightening.


13 posted on 04/27/2011 1:09:21 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: All

Click The Pic

14 posted on 04/27/2011 1:09:25 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: PBinTX

Oh C’mon #2 - AP Is Involved?

The AP has also released a “different version” of the document the White House released.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185101


15 posted on 04/27/2011 1:10:24 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: a fool in paradise

If the State of Hawaii put an official seal on this and says it’s a genuine public record of Hawaii, that ends the discussion of the authenticity as far as any court is concerned. Under the Constitution (Article IV, section 1), every state and court must give “Full Faith and Credit...to the public Acts, Records and judicial proceedings of every State.” So if Hawaii says it’s real, the law of every other state says it’s real. (And by federal statute, federal courts are also required to give full faith and credit to the public records of every state.)


16 posted on 04/27/2011 1:11:14 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PBinTX

Curiouser and curiouser...


17 posted on 04/27/2011 1:13:42 PM PDT by libsrscum (Obama causes cancer.)
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To: PBinTX

GREAT catch!


18 posted on 04/27/2011 1:14:10 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: PGR88

No problem. We’ll know its GENUINE if Dan Rather says it is!!


19 posted on 04/27/2011 1:17:53 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: a fool in paradise

Wow. the folks who did this forgery must be smokin’ sumthin’ powerful to screw it up this bad. it’s like they hung a kick me sign on der reader. this is going to be hard to ‘splain


20 posted on 04/27/2011 1:18:27 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: PBinTX

Ya just cant make this up.They blew it bigtime and you just know trump knows it.


21 posted on 04/27/2011 1:19:07 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

How do you put a seal on a PDF file that is a composite image (so I’ve been lead to believe from reports today)?

I myself have no love of adobe software of any sort. And pdf files give me the redass.

There are officials in the Department of Public Safety who will knowingly produce a genuine driver’s license to someone with a (or multiple) fake names. Corruption in the ranks does not surprise me.

Taking them at their word that it is genuine. Why stonewall for 4 years?


22 posted on 04/27/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: PBinTX

How does this square with the twin who was born a few days before or after. What hospital does HER BC have listed?


23 posted on 04/27/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: a fool in paradise

Wasn’t the hospital the same as on the ones for the twins we were looking at earlier today? Seems like it was worded the same on the fake 0bama one and the ones for the twins born around the same time.


24 posted on 04/27/2011 1:20:30 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Oldpuppymax

Kinko’s Fault!


25 posted on 04/27/2011 1:21:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: PBinTX
According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

The hospital name is indeed listed as "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" on the supposedly legit Nordyke twins 1961 birth certificates: Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates


26 posted on 04/27/2011 1:21:33 PM PDT by AHerald ("Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home -- John 19:27)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

it’s hard to comprehend how obvious this is. it’s childlike


27 posted on 04/27/2011 1:22:02 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: a fool in paradise

I saw on another thread a picture of the Nordyke baby document(from 1961)and it also had Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital on it?

Not sure what that means, but they are the same.


28 posted on 04/27/2011 1:22:25 PM PDT by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: PBinTX

The name of the hospital matches that of the Nordkye twins.


29 posted on 04/27/2011 1:22:48 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: PBinTX

Well, if that’s the case then a contemporary phone book should confirm it.


30 posted on 04/27/2011 1:23:13 PM PDT by Grut
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To: PDGearhead

Oops! It’s on post #27. Sorry.


31 posted on 04/27/2011 1:24:46 PM PDT by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: Beckwith

Someone did research on Kapioloni Hospital. Interesting, to say the least. The original is at the link.

I would have expected the Obama operatives to do a better job this time. They’re incompetent.

““Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI: The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapi’olani as the Kapi’olani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapi’olani Maternity Home to become Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org]”


32 posted on 04/27/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: NEMDF

I don’t know anything about birthing no twin babies.

I wasn’t involved in that discussion today.

I seem to recall some problems (years ago) over the media getting the hospital name wrong previously. Something that they REVISED their online articles to reflect without a “correction”. And this was something changed long after the news went to press.

For a “transparent president”, he looks like a naked emperor to me.


33 posted on 04/27/2011 1:25:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: a fool in paradise

Fake! Fake! Fake!


34 posted on 04/27/2011 1:29:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: PGR88
One should be careful not to declare

too early.

35 posted on 04/27/2011 1:30:20 PM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: stickywillie

Maui Wowee... Oh wow man.


36 posted on 04/27/2011 1:33:36 PM PDT by Shady (God will be merceful to believers in the love of Christ.)
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To: PGR88

Sound’s like Dan Rather has been moonlighting over at the White House.....


37 posted on 04/27/2011 1:34:44 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: SvenMagnussen

HOW MANY ARE THERE????

I only have one!


38 posted on 04/27/2011 1:34:52 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If a frog had wings he wouldnt bump his butt when he hopped...how about those authentic texas california and pureto rico Bc’s?


39 posted on 04/27/2011 1:34:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Revolting cat!

"We do not have time for this kind of silliness!" - B.Obama April 27, 2011

40 posted on 04/27/2011 1:35:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: SatinDoll

better check the nordyke twins bcs they have kapiolani also,,,


41 posted on 04/27/2011 1:36:52 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: PGR88
I figured this was the genuine article, but then I look over the White House .pdf, and I am less convinced.

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What is with that M? It isn't off a 1961 typewriter!

42 posted on 04/27/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

43 posted on 04/27/2011 1:38:52 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Plutarch
What is with that M? It isn't off a 1961 typewriter!

Correct. Since both A.M., and P.M., end in "M.", the "M." is preprinted.

44 posted on 04/27/2011 1:41:52 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: PBinTX

ping


45 posted on 04/27/2011 1:50:04 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: rolling_stone

Check the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. According to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital.


46 posted on 04/27/2011 1:51:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: rolling_stone
Hawaii now says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue. It's entitled to Full Faith and Credit.
47 posted on 04/27/2011 1:53:55 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PGR88

I was looking at Deninger’s site earlier and downloaded the PDF file from the WH website. I happen to be a graphic artist and prepress specialist so I analyze these types of files all the time. Without a clear understanding of how Hawaii produces these documents, it’s hard to determine if it’s outside the norm. That being said however, my experience tells me that this is a hack job.
The “AUG-8 1961” date stamp at the bottom is very suspicious. The “AUG-8 6 “ part is green ink and the “19” and “6” part of it are black ink. They are separate pieces of the document as well. The “Mother’s Occupation” of “None” is also a separate piece. I wonder if this is deliberately weird to create MORE controversy or just a bad hack.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 1:54:59 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: rolling_stone
Further info: According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI: The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org]
49 posted on 04/27/2011 1:55:37 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: sten
...it’s the stick in the sand that says 0bama’s baby daddy was ‘african’ (which is not a term used in 1961, as it could be any race). it also shows 0bama’s baby daddy to be kenyan when 0bama was born.

According to the Hawaii dept of health, when they take down the information from the parents that will be used to fill out the B.C. they ask the parents their race and simply use whatever they say without altering it. Makes sense.

[...]obviously, you cannot be natural born while having dual citizenship status.

That's just not true. Of course you can. A friend of mine is a natural born citizen of both the U.S. and Canada.

50 posted on 04/27/2011 2:00:15 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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