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Stephen Hawking Explains Spontaneous Creation in Discovery Channel Series
Christian Post ^ | 08/04/2011 | Fionna Agomuoh |

Posted on 08/04/2011 2:02:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Who you gonna believe? Maria or Stephen Hawking?


21 posted on 08/04/2011 2:15:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

lectures, beliefs, and tv aside, I understand that hawking has the personality of a first class jerk.

that has nothing to do or not do with science, it is all him.


22 posted on 08/04/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stephen is wrestling with God.


23 posted on 08/04/2011 2:17:41 PM PDT by right way right (Who that at my door?)
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To: Liberty1970

I posit that if the universe was not created, then we are created by a nothing, a nil, but somehow the same nil is kind enough to have given Hawkins a wheelchair and let him, his intellect and his spirit expound, out of cursory curiosity and respect. Is it by chance that he was given an audience? Is he the special result above others? Or is specialness derived from one’s humbler and thus deeper vision of things. This is where this is getting at in terms of narcissism.


24 posted on 08/04/2011 2:17:45 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Huskrrrr

From today you cannot see tomorrow. From yesterday you could not see today. But tomorrow happens despite not being able to see even the least of it, today.


25 posted on 08/04/2011 2:20:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see... hmmmm Maria or Mr. Potter...

May God have mercy on his soul.


26 posted on 08/04/2011 2:20:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: SeekAndFind
or was it determined by a law of science.

What is the origin of these particular laws of science. Why are there laws of science rather than nothing? Why do these laws of science have the nature that they have rather than some other nature?

27 posted on 08/04/2011 2:24:17 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: JudgemAll

I wonder, do ya suppose that the ‘going smaller and smaller’ until it is learned that there is a limit to how small a something can be is what sends minds like Stephen’s into these odd little rages? I mean, Stephen doesn’t yet want to admit that a smidgen of time and a pinch of energy is a photon. How can he see the start of it all if he still hasn’t come to grips with creation being the start of dimensions time and space? We only sense what has already happened. We don’t even sense a rpesent event. What circuits would it blow in Stephen’s mind if he were shown a future event?!


28 posted on 08/04/2011 2:25:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Liberty1970
... the universe created itself out of nothing."

So the chicken that didn't exist yet laid the egg it was hatched from ... right?

Hey Steve ... gfy, asshole.

29 posted on 08/04/2011 2:26:44 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: right way right

I think you are correct and it is fascinating to watch.

Perhaps one day Mr. Hawking will return from his travels in distant lands.


30 posted on 08/04/2011 2:26:49 PM PDT by linear (Life's too short to worry about those unmarked black helicopters hovering over your house...)
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To: Liberty1970
He proposes that it is possible that the universe created itself out of nothing.

That is the very definition of a miracle, isn't it?

31 posted on 08/04/2011 2:29:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: GunRunner

And what causes the fluctuations of these subatomic particles?


32 posted on 08/04/2011 2:32:15 PM PDT by Walrus (You can't begin a revolution with establishment leaders)
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To: 4yearlurker

I was going to quote Billy Preston:

“Nothing from nothing leaves nothing”


33 posted on 08/04/2011 2:32:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God”.


34 posted on 08/04/2011 2:33:23 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

here’s what I don’t get with these scientist atheists...

Suppose they are right, that the other 90%+ of humans are idiots and there is nothing else.

In any case, the remote chance of an after-life is their only chance to have the answers of the universe, or have the possibilities of seeing what’s on other planets or to see back in time what the dinosaur age was really like or in Mr. Hawking’s case, to walk again.

They spend millions of dollars on the tiny remote chance that they discover aliens on another planet, but go completely against something that anyone can know absolutely yes or no for sure.


35 posted on 08/04/2011 2:33:22 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“That is the very definition of a miracle, isn’t it?”

Great post!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 08/04/2011 2:33:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hawking says it is likely the universe “popped into existence without violating the known laws of Nature.”

Wow. For many people, belief in God requires too much of a leap of faith. But believing that the universe just “popped into existence” requires a much, much, much longer leap.


37 posted on 08/04/2011 2:35:03 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: dfwgator
I cannot separate Hawking's ideas from his condition. His inability to praise God for the blessing of his life leaves him with a curse on his lips.

Of course the universe is capable of creating itself out of nothing. Especially if nothing is not quite the condition before creation.

Does the so called law of gravity precede creation? If so it is immutable. The only general understanding we have of God is His immutability. Is he calling God gravity? Or is gravity merely the single facet of God Hawking is capable of acknowledging?

38 posted on 08/04/2011 2:37:21 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can’t understand, or was it determined by a law of science. I believe the second,” Hawking writes in The Grand Design.

That's a valid question, but it falls outside the purview of science. Hawking is free to pursue the answer, but it falls outside his area of expertise.

His conclusion that the universe created itself is the only one which science can reach. Since God created all things from nothing, science, in tracing backward to the universe's origin, must eventually reach a point at which nothing existed (nothing which science can detect, that is).

There are therefore only two possible conclusions: Either (A) someone or something created the universe, or (B) the universe created itself.

If Hawking is so philosophically prejudiced against the existed of a Creator, he is forced to adhere to the auto-creation conclusion in spite of its illogic, implausibility, and utter silliness.

He has led us to the answer, and then turned his back on it. We can thank him for guiding us here, without following him into foolishness.
39 posted on 08/04/2011 2:37:30 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Cheetahcat

;-)


40 posted on 08/04/2011 2:37:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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