Posted on 08/04/2011 2:02:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
>>> In the 1970s a British astronomer, Sir Frederick Hoyle, calculated the probability of spontaneous generation of a single celled organism.
Now have Sir Hoyle calculate the odds on an all-powerful sentiment deity at some point popping into existence from nothingness, which THEN creates the rest of the universe from more nothingness. When mathematically looking at adding this extra step, which better qualifies as likely per Occam’s Razor?
Face it. It’s all impossible, and you only exist in my imagination.
Remember the old cartoon of the mathematicians at the blackboard...
“And then a miracle occurs...”
>> Hawking: “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist,”
Creationist!!!
And judging by appearances, God is beating the crap out of him.
This stuff is sophistry. Quantum fluctuations require prerequisites to occur. By definition those prerequisites are energy and space. Neither is nothing.
Hawking is a sophist when he perverts science to promote his beleief system just like any other sophist.
ah solipsism
It amazes me how to so many scientists philosophy is just a barren landscape.
Well said.
Whew.. Talk about an overrated, politically correct media darling.
Hawking was wrong in his original theories about black holes as well.
More atheist theology as usual.
“The universe created itself out of nothing.”
This should be on a bumpersticker with Hawking’s name on it.
Have you ever heard of eternal self-existence?
Exactly. I have a sneaking suspicion that the current world of theoretical physics is going to be dumped on its ear by some mind bending discoveries in the years to come.
Creationism vs. evolution. Neither of them can be proved by experiment in a lab. None of us were there when the world came into being so both of these beliefs require faith since they cannot be proved beyond the shadow of a doubt by scientists. Given the high levels of complexity in our world I find it easier to believe that our world was created instead of having created itself. I have yet to see evolution give adequate explanations of the rise of pollination in plants, symbiotic relationships between organisms, how the first spark of life came into being or how organisms advanced through mutation (all mutations mankind have seen have always been detrimental instead of beneficial). Evolution also cannot explain why there is a mountain in the Swiss alps in which the fossil layers are reversed and why there have been petrified trees found that stick through many fossilized rock layers (if the rock layers took so long to form why did the trees no rot?). Also, the second law of Thermodynamics tells us that things tend to disorder and not to order. When a garden is left uncared for it gets messy and weedy. A house left uncared for rots and falls apart. Things don't advance and improved themselves naturally or by accident. This key law flies in the face of the evolutionary claim that all sorts of cool advancements happened just by accident.
Life cannot create itself anymore than a car can create itself or Mona Lisa can paint herself. It takes more faith to believe that life just somehow happened to create itself that to believe that it had a designer.
Late to the thread, but thought I’d point out that even if “the “laws of science” can explain how the universe created itself from nothing,” it does absolutely nothing to prove that “God did not have a hand in creating the universe.”
That something “could” happen by itself cannot prove that it did.
Because these is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist......but not why the law of gravity exists in the first place. Hawking has, and has had, his head up his ass.
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