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Posted on 08/04/2011 2:02:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
So which side are YOU on ... the non pre-existent chicken or the egg it laid of itself ?
In the beginning there was nothing. And then all at once, for no reason, the nothing became everything. And the everything instantly exploded in a great big bang. And as it was exploding, the everything began to organize itself. In the midst of the explosion, the everything organized itself into various elements. And the spray of elements organized themselves into great structures: stars, comets, planets; collections of stars, comets and planets which we call systems; collections of systems into massive structures which we call galaxies; and a giant honeycomb matrix of galaxies which form the universe.
All this began from nothing. And it came into being suddenly for no reason. And if you think that there must be a reason, you are not a scientist.
First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.
Well, the big question is whether Stephen is stumped or not. He seems to me to be stumped and to blame something else other than himself, so he goes with circumstances as being to blame. Hence I believe this is how he gives up or feels like giving up. Or maybe he is asking a question but the media jumps on it so as to portray him as an atheist? Or maybe the media is trying to encourage him to give up. There is a lot of going on like this in the present culture of destruction of the west, and to attack a man on a wheel chair would not be far fetched for the Marxists to do.
They pimp and manipulate like that concessions out of people out of nowhere. A scientist’s ego would thus fight the notion that he is manipulable, this is funny, because he is saying he is manipulated by spontaneity and that this conclusion is objective or not manipulable.
As for reading future events, we already know that the cares of the microscopic is reflected in the cares of the macroscopic, and, similarly, the cares of the future are already mirrored in the cares of the present and the past.
So, obviously, the wave/photon/TimeSpace is transmitted from one set to another set of universe, in resonance. Matter is merely a reorganization of this wave in a resisted entropic manner. Matter essentialy is a “slowed up” process following in delay this resonance. THus, what we think is created with our poor sight, might be a process of destruction and resistance against this light and life in the universe, or, alternatively, a fancy that does not warrant any real question, but something to share in the illustration.
Life, frankly, is a set of information and interactions, and it does not need matter per say, it’s “just” words, and such words can become expressed in matter/flesh, but it is much more dramatic.
What bothers Hawkins might be irrelevant to his work in physics, and this is made real by his rant being not coming from scientific conclusions, imo, but more like, you said, getting annoyed at something - a sort of philosophying for a purpose.
Unlike you and your bigoted and hate filled comment about Hawking, I'm willing to listen to both sides. As of right now, Hawking makes more sense than your
"Hey Steve ... gfy, asshole."
That certainly makes you a bonafide Christian doesn't it?
That was a totslly uncalled for and ignorant thing to say .. I apologize.
Now ...
about that chicken that didn't exist, yet laid the egg it was hatched from ....
GOD: “Hey, Hawking! Use your OWN dirt!!!
***So where did the laws such as gravity come from?***
Congress voted them in a while ago. Before that everything was just floating around, bumping into everything. Then Congress Voted in the Law of Gravity. It was close, with most of the Democrats voting to continue Chaos, but the majority Republicans, along with one or two independants (which really ticked off the Dems, I mean, how can an Independant not be for free floating???)passed the Law of Gravity, which had a veto proof majority, leaving the President nothing to do but sign the Law into effect. Everything sucked after that.
Now ...
about that chicken that didn't exist, yet laid the egg it was hatched from ....
I accept your apology although I don't get the feeling it was from the heart. Nevertheless,
As for your follow up question, all I can say is I Don't Know............
I'm on my own personal search for a belief in God and a church that will fullfill my needs but I have yet to find one. It's statements such as yours and many others on this site who claim to be christians that lead me to believe that their personal belief in Christianity is nothing more than a feel good means to assuage yours and their guilt feelings for the actions or words they express in their day to day lives..............
In other words, "What I said or did today was wrong but because I believe in God, he will forgive me......." and tomorrow I will do the same damn thing.
So, from a Christian vs. Scientific analysis of the existence of God, I'm leaning towards Hawking for no other reason than what I just offered...........
I asked Jesus into my life in 1981 because some guy that made sense to me said I should if I wanted to go to heaven when I died.
I took out that free fire insurance policy and in spite of my occasional (or frequent) lapses into vulgarity, I have the internal, inate witness Jesus is still with me, loves me and allows me to ask forgiveness, the which He accepts.
I apologize I have been a nail in your coffin if you never receive Him because of me.
I accept your true apology now, and I appreciate your kind words...........thank you.
We used to have guys like Monsignor Lemaitre, the Belgian priest who postulated the first serious work on the Big Bang. Nowadays we have con artists like Rick Warren and Oral Roberts who claim to have all the answers.
BFL.
So what he believes violates the law of cause and effect...
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.”
Bold statement considering we don’t even have a complete understanding of the law of gravity. But understandable coming from someone who believes in spontaneous laws.
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I can sniff out a homosexual a mile away. You are very obviously a self loathing homosexual.
That is the probability for the generation of a single CELL, which is billions(? physics was too long ago for me) of times larger than a sub-atomic particle. Wonder if the probabilities for the one particle are more within reach?
Ah, but it's those "unknown laws" that are the rub. There was once a time when the "laws" said the world was flat. Any number of "known" facts have been disproved over the centuries.
Since Hawking didn't use any science at all to explain how something comes from nothing I would like to hear how he made any sense at all to you?
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