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Shockingly, I am Leaning Toward Newt
none | 11/5/11 | originalbuckeye

Posted on 11/05/2011 7:19:16 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

Having watched several of the debates, I am becoming convinced that Newt might be the only one that can beat Obama. He will destroy Obama in the Presidential debates. Can he overcome the destruction that Big Media rained down on him in the 90's?


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To: originalbuckeye

Newt is a big government guy. He just wants to play musical chairs with it.


121 posted on 11/05/2011 9:14:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: frankenMonkey

Agree: It’s gonna be Newt.. he’ll make mince-meat out of Obama in the debate. I believe he’s from Virginia now so Cain as VP is do-able but no one votes for VP so that’s a moot point in the scheme of things. I suspect whoever gets the nomination will pick a VOP candidate who hasn’t been bloodied by this nomination process.


122 posted on 11/05/2011 9:19:18 AM PDT by Froggie (uires)
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To: IM2MAD

True but if they cannot make sense on stage they are not beating the idiot in the wh


123 posted on 11/05/2011 9:22:57 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: daniel boob

newt is probably the smartest guy to run since nixon.

I think you should ponder that sentence for a long time.


124 posted on 11/05/2011 9:23:34 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: 2007 Crusader; MNJohnnie

There are a lot of us who will not vote for Newt. He talks a good game, but is sadly ineffective or even contradictory to the goals of conservatism once in power.


125 posted on 11/05/2011 9:24:39 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: originalbuckeye
"He will destroy Obama in the debates ...."

... to some watchers. To other watchers, especially those reporting on it, Obama will have destroyed Newt. People -- especially Obama sycophants and the MSM -- see what they want to see. Newt could clean Obama's clock -- ANYBODY could clean Obama's clock in the debates, as anyone with brains could recognize -- but the mechanism that might put Obama in office concerns neither brains nor, to a crucial degree, legitimate voters.

Obama and liberal Democrats cheat to win. Period. They have a whole mechanism constructed via many factors. They use manufactured votes. They use fraudulent votes of dead people and duplicate registrations. They gin votes from stupid people who have no business voting and would not vote at all if they weren't being led to the polls by Democrats. Whether or not Newt or anyone else can "destroy Obama in the debates" is irrelevant.

If the elections were legitimate, Obama would have lost in the first place, as most Americans despise him and despise Liberalism. The so-called popularity of liberalism, presented to us in pop culture and the MSM, is illusion, pretend, and we go around thinking there are a lot more liberals in America than there actually are; we perceive ourselves wrongly as the weak minority, and when the REAL minority wins by fraud, we're already conditioned to accept it.

We need to recognize that WE ARE THE MAJORITY, that liberals are the loathed minority, that their popularity is illusion, and that the only reason they're perceived as bigger than they are is because they make the most noise. As WE ARE THE MAJORITY, if we got tough and hard-nosed on enforcing anti-election fraud, the MSM and pop culture would scream and yell so loudly that it would appear as if we hard-nosed folks were a minority, but the TRUTH would be that we'd have the support of MOST legitimate American voters. And we'd have to move forward with the courage and faith that we are that majority -- it will have to be via courage, faith, and deductive logic (if we weren't the majority, liberals wouldn't have to cheat to win). No "legitimate" sources in the MSM or government will validate what we know is true, and thus we must rely on COURAGE and FAITH.

126 posted on 11/05/2011 9:26:28 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: qman

Bush’s misguided dealings with Kennedy were driven from his past experience of dealing with a more reasoned type of Democrat such as those he dealt with in Texas. Bob Bullock, after all, the D Lt. Gov. worked closely with Bush and even supported his bid for President and I believe was one of the first to tell him he should run for the office. Bush didn’t reallize the anomaly he was dealing with in Austin didn’t exist in Washington. Of course if he’d have studied history from the early 80s and before he would have realized that Democrats in Washington are not to be trusted nor believed.
However, how much better off were we that Bush was the President on Sept 11, 2001 and not Al Gore?


127 posted on 11/05/2011 9:26:59 AM PDT by Froggie (uires)
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To: Ingtar; 2007 Crusader
Newt is McCain 2.0.

In a head to head match up against Obama Newt polls worse even then Paul.

Why? Because rightly, or wrongly, the perception in voters minds is he is just another DC Establishment suit. They see Newt as part of the same political class that created our current problems.

Be stupid politics in the current political environment for the GOP to nominate someone 0bama can credibly paint as "part of the Wall Street/GOP Political Establishment that wrecked the economy" in voter's minds.

128 posted on 11/05/2011 9:27:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Tenacious 1

“... Newt would make a great VP, however. He knows the policital landscape and is a good strategist.”

Gingrich would be a good policy adviser to any conservative POTUS.


129 posted on 11/05/2011 9:29:05 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
What baggage?

Well, let see. He divorced wife #1 as she was recovering from uterine cancer (he had been carrying on an affair with the next wife, prior to his divorce.)

Married wife #2 6 months after divorcing, and when she was diagnosed with MS...divorced her, btw was having an affair with wife #3 prior to divorce.

Wife #3 is 23 years his junior, I don't have a problem with that. But I do think what makes him a philandering and "run from trouble" husband (i.e. illness of his wives) would make him a poor leader...he'd cave under pressure.

Talk is cheap, bravado is fun to watch, and he's doing a great job in the debates...but character is what shines through when you're President. I question the man's character.

Will I vote for him if he's nominated, of course, I'd vote for any candidate who runs against Obama.

130 posted on 11/05/2011 9:31:16 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: originalbuckeye

I could live with a Tea Party Congress and a President Gingrich. For all his Rhinoish tendencies, Newt has a lot of deep-seated conservative impulses too. His worst tendencies would be checked by the Congress and the more conservative state governments. Although I wish Perry would somehow make a comeback, I could make my peace with the Newtser.


131 posted on 11/05/2011 9:39:55 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I have been Cain/Gingrich for a while now. The knowledge and success this ticket would have compared to Obama/Biden is off the charts.


132 posted on 11/05/2011 9:41:18 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: originalbuckeye

He supports “Limited amnesty”

If you trust him about the meaning of limited, then great.


133 posted on 11/05/2011 9:47:01 AM PDT by heiss (heartless)
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To: originalbuckeye

He should be Cain’s VP.


134 posted on 11/05/2011 9:50:23 AM PDT by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: originalbuckeye

he’s clearly the brightest bulb out there....he handled the moderators perfectly on the debates, and is a shape as a tack


135 posted on 11/05/2011 9:58:01 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: originalbuckeye
Here is a post I made a few weeks ago listing the baggage that Gingrich has to overcome.

I'm a fan, but I accept these as things as character traits he has to overcome.

-PJ

136 posted on 11/05/2011 10:05:58 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: driftdiver

Amazing how the Newtbots pretend that never happened. They also pretend he did not run away like a dog with his tail between his legs over a valid but silly ethics complaint when he was Speaker. Demrats stalked him while he was driving talking on the phone to someone he shouldn’t have. They illegally used a scanner. Newt didn’t even take them to court. Newt people pretend he’s not a serial philanderer and on his third marriage. Doesn’t look to me like his judgement is what one would look for in a President.

Finally, Newt was and is part of culture that brought us the wonderful world of Marxism. He’s a proud member of the RINO-led GOP.

I will never vote for Newt, Perry or Romney. If Perry and Romney had any morality they would withdraw their shameful attempt to run for president.


137 posted on 11/05/2011 10:06:47 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Snickering Hound

A picture is truly worth a thousand words. You can bet that pic will pop in his opponent’s ads if he shows the least sign of becoming a viable contender.

I never understood why he shot himself in the foot with that ad—particularly if he harbored an idea he might run for pres. It has passed through my mind that, at the time he did the ad, he thought the Marxists would control the gov’t for a long time and he wanted to be on the winning side.


138 posted on 11/05/2011 10:13:53 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: SumProVita

Neither one of you are alone.


139 posted on 11/05/2011 10:20:35 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: originalbuckeye
After watching Cain shuck and jive and stumble over the sex harassment charges and his gaffs on pro life/pro choice I don't think he can stand up to Zero in a debate. he is in being attacked for sex harassment and walking around with a pimp hat, wrong image for me.

Newt can walk all over Zero in a debate and all he has to do is concentrate on Zero's lies. Easy to do since the bastard lies everytime he opens his mouth. I also believe that if Zero goes up against anyone else in the debates he will never get the hard questions our guys have had in the debates so far.

140 posted on 11/05/2011 10:36:32 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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