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Outta my way! America's rudest cities (can you guess without reading?)
MSNBC ^ | 01/20/2012 | Katrina Brown Hunt

Posted on 01/20/2012 5:00:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 01/20/2012 7:11:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Which is worse when you’re traveling: the local driver who blithely cuts you off in traffic or the surly cabbie who gives you attitude right to your face?

Such skirmishes no doubt fueled this year’s America’s Rudest Cities contest, voted on by Travel + Leisure readers. Three-time-champion Los Angeles, home of road rage, went head-to-head with classically brusque East Coast cities such as Boston, New York and Washington, D.C. — all of which landed in the top five.


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1 posted on 01/20/2012 5:00:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

BFL


2 posted on 01/20/2012 5:08:16 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have found that if you ask a New Yorker for directions or something, they’re friendly and want to help.
But don’t expect a “HI”, “How are you?” “Can I help you find anything?” at the local grocery store. You’ll be lucky if they even look up or if they count your change back to you rather than just dump it in your hand.

Ahhh, New York


3 posted on 01/20/2012 5:15:57 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Rude or not it seems they will still rally when it counts (i.e. when that Airliner went down in the Hudson).


4 posted on 01/20/2012 5:20:06 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: SeekAndFind

That list is stupid. People voted on it. What if no one has been to the city? Detroit wasn’t on the list because NO ONE comes here.

I’ve been all over the country and I’d rank Detroit right on up there. Especially if one has no hijab or is the wrong shade.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 5:20:22 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m surprised Philly dropped out of the top ten.


6 posted on 01/20/2012 5:25:27 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: chargers fan

Yup, they sure do


7 posted on 01/20/2012 5:26:44 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: SeekAndFind
But don’t give too much credit to southern hospitality. Atlanta made it into the rudest top 10...

Atlanta is more Middle Eastern than Southern. It's become like a foreign country. What a shame.

8 posted on 01/20/2012 5:28:49 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: SeekAndFind

As someone who lived in the NY suburbs and Boston, I can tell you that Bostonians are far more rude than NYers could ever hope to be. NYers don’t make eye contact with strangers, and can act threatened when you do. During the Atlanta Games, when they spelled out, “How y’all doin?” I joked that NYers would say “What the f*** you lookin’ at?”... and mean the same thing. But you quickly adapt to such gruffness, and when you have the opportunity to make proper eye contact, NYers can be very friendly.

But in Boston, it’s not gruffness; it’s a bizarre level of misanthropy and hatred of strangers. I remember pausing for a second to find a subway token in Boston, and being shoved by a little old lady, must’ve been 90 years old: “GET THE F*** OUT OF MY WAY, YOU G**-D*MNED DIRTBAG!!!!” I remember going to a CHURCH group, being the newcomer, and watching in amazement the way chat circles just close up when someone new comes by. And the plainly bizarre behavior of simply lying whenever a stranger asks for directions. In residential neighborhoods, they won’t even have street signs, because if you belong in that neighborhood, you know damned well what the street’s name is. And most Bostonians would pay $100 to get the chance to rip you off a dollar.

After a while, it stops seeming odd that “wicked” is the local dialect’s word for everything from “pleasurable,” to “astounding” to “very.”


9 posted on 01/20/2012 5:34:08 AM PST by dangus
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To: SeekAndFind
Yep. I guessed it without reading.
Without any doubt I knew it'd be NYC.
10 posted on 01/20/2012 5:35:34 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: SeekAndFind

I grew up in NY and these cities I spent several years in were much more rude than NY:

1) DC absolutely f’n a-holes
2) Chicago- arrogant and snotty
3) Charlotte NC —surprisingly rude and very fake but the rest of NC outside of 485 was very pleasant.
4) St Louis—They have little city complex rivalry with Chicago and thus try to out rude them
5) Boston—racist,thug like and very upfront about it.

Manhattan is very crude but Manhattan is NOT the whole of NYC.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 5:36:54 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I just wrote about how New Yorkers are so much nicer than Bostonians. Having gone to college in Pennsylvania, the Philadelphians (mostly suburbanites) were very friendly. I suspect this is out of boredom, however: “Oh, Goody! Someone to talk to!”

Seriously, it took me years to accept that my Philly-area friends weren’t just being kinda uncharacteristically loserish when it came to finding things to do in Philly... although Hershey, Pa isn’t far.


12 posted on 01/20/2012 5:38:15 AM PST by dangus
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I just wrote about how New Yorkers are so much nicer than Bostonians. Having gone to college in Pennsylvania, the Philadelphians (mostly suburbanites) were very friendly. I suspect this is out of boredom, however: “Oh, Goody! Someone to talk to!”

Seriously, it took me years to accept that my Philly-area friends weren’t just being kinda uncharacteristically loserish when it came to finding things to do in Philly... although Hershey, Pa isn’t far.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 5:38:27 AM PST by dangus
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Thug-like... that’s another strange thing about how just strangely evil Boston is. The local high-brow newspaper, the Boston Globe, is viciously anti-Catholic, but still pro-mafia. How can you hate Italians and Irish and love the mafia and the corrupt CINO politicans, like Mumbles Menino and the Winter Hill Gang?

My mayor failed to file paperwork, resulting in the Winter Hill Gang getting property back from the city... and was immediately sent to Congress. The Globe sat on the news story until just after the primary, which serves as the de-facto election.


14 posted on 01/20/2012 5:42:49 AM PST by dangus
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been to NYC 4-5 times and find the residents put up a “protective” air of rudeness, but it is shallow and once you get past that thin veneer they can be very helpful and friendly.

If they have no reason to know you, or help you, they want nothing to do with you.


15 posted on 01/20/2012 5:50:19 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: dangus

I had no idea Boston was like this...only have been there a couple of times. Their image used to be one of complete propriety.

I live on the west coast...think life is probably less stressful here despite being the LEFT coast.


16 posted on 01/20/2012 5:51:22 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Aria

We got to NY a lot now as my daughter lives there. I find NY’ers will talk to you and help you out a lot — but they’re really pushy. I also find the store clerks very impersonal. My daughter doesn’t dare go shopping during the busy times.

It’s very tough to get around and with so many people, you just naturally become pushy and direct. It’s survival.

We’re in DC and we can’t stand it. Not only are they rude, many are also very liberal and very snotty — esp the young people here. Can’t stand them.


17 posted on 01/20/2012 5:59:06 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: SeekAndFind
New York and Washington, D.C. — all of which landed in the top five.
I'm a NYC area native although I haven't lived there in decades. Nevertheless, I've visited probably 40 times in the last 25 years or so and never thought it rude.
By contrast, I've been to Washington, DC a dozen times in the last 10 years and observed really rude behavior. Specifically - runners.
Worst case is the Lincoln Memorial where they do repeats running up the steps, then walking down.
Grunting, sweating and even spitting all the while. RUDE!
18 posted on 01/20/2012 6:00:48 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: nuconvert

I’ve heard it said from two different people that have homes in both New York and Seattle that said the same thing: New Yorkers are friendly, while Seattleites are polite.

By “friendly”, they mean that they don’t politely keep you at arms length.

There is even a cartoon about this. Let me see if I can find it. Nope. Couldn’t.


19 posted on 01/20/2012 6:02:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: netmilsmom

I was in Detroit walking from Greek Town to my Hotel at about midnight and did the ol’ “pretend I’m on my cell phone” trick as I was walking by a panhandler. Agressive would be an understatement. I finally had to tell him to back off and I was on the phone. There was this weird sense of entitlement coming from him.


20 posted on 01/20/2012 6:04:21 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The more inadequate the transportation infrastructure, the ruder the people.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 6:07:34 AM PST by Mmmike
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To: SeekAndFind

Btt


22 posted on 01/20/2012 6:08:41 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SeekAndFind

Hang around any airport, and you will find that flights to certain destination cities contain a high percentage of easily stressed people.


23 posted on 01/20/2012 6:10:52 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: nuconvert; Gamecock; F15Eagle
You just have to know the rules. :-)


24 posted on 01/20/2012 6:15:16 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Ron Paul: Favorite of military impersonators everywhere.)
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To: cuban leaf
I was in Detroit walking from Greek Town to my Hotel at about midnight and did the ol’ “pretend I’m on my cell phone” trick as I was walking by a panhandler. Agressive would be an understatement. I finally had to tell him to back off and I was on the phone. There was this weird sense of entitlement coming from him.

Detroit? Entitlement? Watch an episode of "Hard Core Pawn" and you'll see entitlement in action in Detroit.

25 posted on 01/20/2012 6:24:58 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: nuconvert
I love New York and New Yorkers. The most straightforward people in the world, actually. Want a rude city. Take Washington DC. They lie and lie and lie, and then they steel their money and lie. For the most part New Yorkers leave you alone, unless you need help, and then they actually held. DC, hah, did I say they just want to take your money and lie. Well that is not true. They also appoint themselves as heads of committees and commissions which they then select with the objective of telling you what to do, and why the money they haven't yet taken needs to be handed over, and why they need a government subsidy in the meantime until they get their hands on your money.

Try being a small government constitutional conservative in DC. Then you will find out what rudeness is.

26 posted on 01/20/2012 6:26:23 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: LibsRJerks

I was in both those cities in October - during the big snow storm actually - and the only problem was with a Muslim taxi driver who tried to dump us as the wrong address and then became very hostile and told us to get out of his cab when the person next to me didn’t want to pay him for this.

I guess we can thank our politicians, starting with Ted Kennedy, for this disgusting situation.


27 posted on 01/20/2012 6:26:46 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Le Chien Rouge
My first visit to Chattanooga was my introduction to a more reasonable pace of life. This part of Tennessee is great.
28 posted on 01/20/2012 6:28:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: nuconvert; cuban leaf; SeekAndFind

I once heard a couple of people who had lived both in NY and California say that if you weren’t exactly welcome, a New Yorker would invite you to lunch, make it short and leave. A Californian would invite you too to lunch but then stay the entire time and just ignore you.

>>”But don’t expect a “HI”, “How are you?” “Can I help you find anything?” at the local grocery store. You’ll be lucky if they even look up or if they count your change back to you rather than just dump it in your hand”<<

That’s how the average Australian does it too in Sydney or Melbourne, unless they know you.

New York, New York... so good they named it 2ice!


29 posted on 01/20/2012 6:33:42 AM PST by odds
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To: LibsRJerks

It is about survival, as you say, or, at least, efficiency, in NY.

The poll could have stated that it was a contest among very busy cities. Circumstances prevail.

NYers, esp, Manhattanites (those who just work in The City included) are very pedestrian. They will talk to any stranger on line for lunch at the deli or in an elevator provided there is a joke or a pertinent point to be made. Otherwis, ease off, they’re busy.

Grew up driving on the LI Expressway. I defy anyone to prove that my now fellow San Antonio drivers aren’t by far among the rudest, and as such, most dangerous drivers of the two. Much prefer driving in Manhattan than on I35.


30 posted on 01/20/2012 6:34:25 AM PST by stanne
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To: Aria

I’m not sure about their image having ever been one of propriety. Or is that sarcasm? “Fun” fact: Boston once had a mayor behind bars. Not sentenced to jail while mayor. Actually served as mayor from behind bars. And if memory serves me, he was re-elected. Rumrunner Kennedy... Mumbles Menino... Whitey Bulger... it’s always been dominated by organized crime.


31 posted on 01/20/2012 6:38:54 AM PST by dangus
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To: Aria

I’m not sure about their image having ever been one of propriety. Or is that sarcasm? “Fun” fact: Boston once had a mayor behind bars. Not sentenced to jail while mayor. Actually served as mayor from behind bars. And if memory serves me, he was re-elected. Rumrunner Kennedy... Mumbles Menino... Whitey Bulger... it’s always been dominated by organized crime.


32 posted on 01/20/2012 6:38:54 AM PST by dangus
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To: SeekAndFind

Filthidelphia = The City of Thuggery Love


33 posted on 01/20/2012 6:41:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Aria

Double-checked: Mayor Curley was elected Alderman, thrown in the slammer, elected mayor, thrown in the slammer again, served as governor, created a false identity as a Puerto Rican so he could fraudulently support Roosevelt in the 1932 convention, elected mayor again, convicted again, served as mayor while in the slammer, pardoned by Harry Truman.


34 posted on 01/20/2012 6:44:09 AM PST by dangus
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To: odds

When I lived in S. Calif, I kept asking myself, “Are these people all on drugs?” They have the slowest cashiers I have ever seen, and they’ll stop checking your order to show someone else their new shoes & then discuss the great sale and price they paid, while you’re just standing there.

Cashiers here are usually quick (unless it’s a man), polite, and you’re always greeted asked “How are you?” “Were you able to find everything you needed?” and at the end of ringing up your groceries “Do you need any stamps or ice?” Your change is always counted. Then you’re asked if you need any help out to your car.

I guess I’m spoiled.


35 posted on 01/20/2012 6:45:30 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Revisit “My cousin Vinny” wherein Steve Mrtin (Vinny) does an impeccable illustration of a NYer’s reaction to friendly So Cal niceness.


36 posted on 01/20/2012 6:52:04 AM PST by stanne
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To: dangus
I remember pausing for a second to find a subway token in Boston, and being shoved by a little old lady, must’ve been 90 years old: “GET THE F*** OUT OF MY WAY, YOU G**-D*MNED DIRTBAG!!!!”

That was my grandmother, and she told me you deserved it.

37 posted on 01/20/2012 6:52:38 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: stanne

Steve Martin is in it, too.


38 posted on 01/20/2012 6:53:40 AM PST by stanne
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To: nuconvert

My experience, exactly, and I lived there from 1966-1972. ;)


39 posted on 01/20/2012 6:54:06 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: dangus

First night in Boston from the mid-west. Took a walk, got turned around but wasn’t worried. A 30-ish woman walks up “Pahdon me, do you know how to get to.....” where ever, I don’t recall. Anyhow, I replied “I’m from Minnesota, I’m lost myself”. “Ohhh, fahget it”. Polite when she wanted something, rude when I was of no further use. But the hotel staff were all great. Jimmy and Claude at the Colonnade Hotel, I remember you guys taking care of an out of towner, even 20 years later. Jimmy was a small old guy who insisted on carrying my suitcase which had to be heavier than he was, and Claude was the waiter who seemed to work 24 hours a day and knew the best stuff to order.


40 posted on 01/20/2012 6:59:50 AM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

AFAIC New York, Chicago, DC, and SoCal entire can sink into the sea or be swallowed up by the earth as the case may be...I’ll never willingly visit again. But Philly has one little lunch stand that makes the greatest meatball and cheesesteak subs...God will just have to sweep around it.


41 posted on 01/20/2012 7:01:32 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: stanne

“My Cousin Vinny” starred Joe Pesci. Steve Martin wasn’t anywhere in that movie... by any spelling...


42 posted on 01/20/2012 7:04:04 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

Phooey! My bad.

“My Blue Heaven” Vinny Antonelli, a mobster in the witness protection program.


43 posted on 01/20/2012 7:06:59 AM PST by stanne
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To: dangus
The local high-brow newspaper, the Boston Globe, is viciously anti-Catholic, but still pro-mafia. How can you hate Italians and Irish and love the mafia and the corrupt CINO politicans, like Mumbles Menino and the Winter Hill Gang?

The irony here is the Boston Globe got its start by being the newspaper for the catholic Irish and Italian immigrants. The old saw was that the Globe was the paper that went "up the back stairs," i.e., the maid's or servant's stairs, while a more august paper like the Boston Transcript went up the front stairs. The Globe's voice began to change in the sixties. Students caught on to it, it went anti-Vietnam, etc., etc., the same old story.

As for your other point, Boston is exceptionally tribal. If a person's great grandparents came from the same third- or second-world hell hole that your great grandparents came from, he or she can be excused for just about any anti-social behavior whatsoever.

44 posted on 01/20/2012 7:07:09 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: cuban leaf

Exactly.


45 posted on 01/20/2012 7:09:24 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: SeekAndFind

New York’s #1! You godda problem wid dat?


46 posted on 01/20/2012 7:10:59 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SeekAndFind
Atlanta made it into the rudest top 10.

And it's well deserved.

47 posted on 01/20/2012 7:11:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: nuconvert

S. Cali is akin to Queensland in Australia (in my experience). Some (many) in Sydney for example tend to joke that Queenslanders still live in the 70s, and are behind times.. real slow, sunshine state (not golden state), surfing dudes, you know.. must be the weather & humidity!

Personally, I like Queensland & Queenslanders. They are friendly, it is a dream driving in Brisbane versus nightmare traffic especially in Sydney for example, and mentality wise Queensland seems more like a big country town - polite, down-to-earth, and personable. Queensland has more gorgeous beaches & crystal clear water than Sydney, Melbourne, or even Perth. Not to mention abundant, unique & excellent quality seafood. Actually it is quite idyllic living.

But, overall, I’d say Australians are equally friendly & helpful as Americans. Europeans are a different story.


48 posted on 01/20/2012 7:11:50 AM PST by odds
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Welcome to Philadelphia...and oh by the way...YOU SUCK!”


49 posted on 01/20/2012 7:12:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, as far as I’m concerned everything east of the Mississippi still belongs to England.


50 posted on 01/20/2012 7:24:14 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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