Skip to comments.Adultery was his thing Harry Mount reviews John F. Kennedy by Robert Dallek
Posted on 01/22/2012 2:51:32 AM PST by RC one
We all know that JFK was a ladies' man but it's never boring to remind ourselves quite how many ladies the man had, continuously - he told Harold Macmillan he got a headache if he didn't go to bed with someone once every three days - and from a young age.
Here he is at 19, writing to a friend about how his father's private secretary had, on a holiday in Cape Cod, "got us some girls thru another guy - four of us had dates and one guy got f---ed 3 times, another guy 3 times (the girl a virgin!) plus myself twice."
After he married, the compulsion for quick, random sex continued unabated. A woman friend said he was as "compulsive as Mussolini. Up against the wall, Signora, if you have five minutes, that sort of thing." Another woman he dated just before he became president was told, "I wish we had time for some foreplay."
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
So that’s our standard now—a democrat did it, so what’s the big problem?
Do we stand for ANYTHING, or are we just on the other side of certain issues?
This is depressing...
I’ll tell you what depresses me, that we’re 15 trillion dollars in debt, mired in high inflation and unemployment, falling into a socialist abyss, and rapidly declining as a nation yet we’re all talking about adultery like it’s even an issue. There are a lot of Republicans with a seriously screwed up set of priorities. Let me be clear here in case you missed it, I do not care about this issue at all.
Just goes to show. Serial adulterers with a sex addiction, mistresses etc. should not hold positions of high power. They become blackmailable and could be potential security risks. No thanks. We are not Europe. I think we should stand for more. This is the traditional CONSERVATIVE position...has been for years.
Where is this period you think we should go back to? That had your high ideals? If it was ever there it’s long gone. You need a reset on the possibility, not the mythology, of America and Christianity. I’ve finally learned it on this board. Get off your holier than thou. You ain’t.
Actually, Conservatives have been falling short of the values they run on for years. This remains a non-issue to me. Newt made mistakes and sought forgiveness. End of story. Time to move on because this is way past stupid.
Who said anything about Gingrich?
ah. my bad.
Kennedy, nor Clinton, nor any of the Democrat sex fiends has ever said anything like that.
LOL I have never cheated on two different wives, taken money from the corrupt Fannie Mae, or like JFK screwed around constantly while presenting a fantasy of marital bliss to others. I never said about 'a period we should go back to' because honor, honesty and respecting promises given are timeless attributes, not fantasies. Also, I'm not a Christian, so you come in for a big fat zero on the perception part, my friend.
It's so funny to see how telling someone they're not 'holier than thou' is the ultimate of 'morality' now. That's the New Age 'ethics' of today--not honesty, not standing up for what's right, not walking the walk instead of just talking the talk to get something, no, the height of ethics is the whine of "Don't be judgemental!"
Yes, how dare one have ideals, how offensive! LOL! What a joke. A pathetic, cynical joke.
had money lots of it.
Anyone with money and Power is bound to be set upon by women who want to be close to it. Turning down sex is not as easy as those who never had to turn any down believes it is.
Certainly living a loose life is not the moral thing to do, but it happens. Does it mean that person is unfit for office? If it does then most people in office are unfit.
We can usually afford to make some moral judgements about who we vote for.Not sure that is possible this time.
Whew! Well said! Time for a lot of folks to look around and take a reality check.
So if one just says “I regret my sin and God has forgiven me” that’s it?
If Obama, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, John Edwards, Jimmy Carter—if they said that, then everything is fine?
Is saying it in public the key? How do we know Clinton or any of the rest haven’t asked for forgiveness from God? Where is it written that this is required? (I’m asking, I don’t know.)
Sorry, I’m an atheist, so I don’t care in the first place. In the second place, I have called Romney “evil” here, yet he is a man who has been with the same woman for years, stood by her when she got ill, brought up a family of (I have it from folks who’ve experienced this first-hand) people who genuinely help others and are decent, and Romney isn’t just attacked for his politics, which is of course fine, he’s bashed as a human being. (He’s also donated tons of money, both in and outside of his religion.)
I just don’t get it.
My way of looking at it is that Gingrich may be forgiven by his God, but where does it say that means those past sins are just gone like they never happened? Did his judgement suddenly get better?
We really want a thrice-married guy who cheated on his wives for LONG periods, who has cozied up with Global Warming kooks, who praised Romneycare...THIS is who we’re going to say is our conservative standard-bearer?
This is what happens when one drinks the Kool-Aid, to use the cliche. Suddenly, it doesn’t matter that Obama had only teaching and government experience in his past—because now OUR guy is the same. Suddenly, things have been very quiet about Fannie/Freddie around here—because OUR guy was involved. Suddenly, we don’t hear talk about Democrat philandering...
I don’t understand it. Flame away, but I can’t just un-learn everything I’ve learned about this guy because people are in a fever waiting for a debate with the guy who hugged John Kerry he debated him on Global Warming.
I respect, then, your high ideals. My compliments. Too bad you’re not Christian. We could use someone of your timber.
“Not all monkeys live in the zoo.” Mother Maybolt, 1929-2008
That gives him two things in common with Ben Franklin.
“those past sins are just gone like they never happened?”
To Christians before God yes that is exactly right.
That's because by and large they are. I don't want to sit in judgement of anyone, but that's not the major point here. I don't care that they have money. I just don't like the deification with which the left, and society in general treat people like the Kennedy clan.
What I think is important is for society to stop glorifying public figures and making celebrities out of politicians. A good rule of thumb is that politicians are not to be trusted. Any of them. That doesn't mean they are all untrustworthy, but it really doesn't matter. The stakes are too high.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Let us judge them by there works and not there words for there will be in these times false prophets.
Harry Mount? Sounds like a Porno name.
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