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Obama and Martial Law - WHAT IF?.... (vanity)
Self ^ | 3.19.2012 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 03/19/2012 7:27:22 PM PDT by Free Vulcan

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For discussion and hopefully action. Link is to the above referenced Executive Order.
1 posted on 03/19/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan

Chile was a banana republic when Allende refused to step down and they managed just fine under the rule of law. But if the US is more bananas than they were ...


2 posted on 03/19/2012 7:34:54 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and I will not go to Illinois to campaign against MITT.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Interesting.

We certainly can’t depend on the federal government to be self-correcting anymore...


3 posted on 03/19/2012 7:35:41 PM PDT by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (also my 2012 strategy))
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To: Free Vulcan
People need to choose freedom, personal responsibility, and local control. Unfortunately, these are extremely unpleasant choices for most everyone.

Freedom means that some folks will make immoral choices. Will you let them?
Personal responsibility means some people will be truly poor and suffering -- maybe even you or people you love. Will you accept grinding poverty as a part of American society?
Local control means that if you have a tornado, flood, or earthquake, federal help may not be available. You're on your own. Can you handle that?

Our whole society has become based on the notion that -- to the best of our ability -- nothing bad will ever happen to anyone, anywhere. We cannot have a successful return to limited government until people throw that entire concept out the window. The little utopia we've tried to build has become a nightmare. Bad things are going to happen. Unless we accept the inevitability of those bad things, we have no hope of ever making anything better.

4 posted on 03/19/2012 7:38:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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The simple solution is for Congress (already convened) to simply call up the Militia (which is everybody) and recognize the authority of the NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT. The Secret Service then takes Obama into custody (if he's lucky).

Much easier than all that BS.

5 posted on 03/19/2012 7:38:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Obama doesn't have the military in his pocket I firmly believe the military would not obey unlawful orders from and POTUS at any time.

That being said, FDR got closest to martial law and moved a whole class of people to involuntary confinement (Nisei) with the consent and assistance of the military.

6 posted on 03/19/2012 7:39:33 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Free Vulcan

Boom? There is always boom somehwere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvrGxIl6Azc


7 posted on 03/19/2012 7:40:09 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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You assume that they will act, if they are not imprisoned or executed by Obama after he takes power. They haven’t acted so far and I don’t see anything changing anytime soon, even if we get a Republican Senate.

As far as the Federal bureaucracy and law enforcement...good luck on that one. Total crap shoot there.


8 posted on 03/19/2012 7:42:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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9 posted on 03/19/2012 7:43:31 PM PDT by Errant
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Actually, once the new president is sworn in, Obama's 'orders' have as much effect as yours or mine.

He'd tell someone to do something and they'd laugh.

10 posted on 03/19/2012 7:43:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Free Vulcan

If he tries it he will be running for his life from the very military he commands because they loathe him and have reasonable proof that he is ineligible for the office he holds.


11 posted on 03/19/2012 7:47:08 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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Very interesting- I pray we don’t need it, but we need to have a lawful solution with plenty of teeth.

I do hope that the concept of Co-equal Branches of Government and Separation of Powers haven’t completely deserted the other two branches. May I suggest the 25th Amendment on the grounds of instability as a good back-pocket solution.

But we can never forget that our power lies in the states.


12 posted on 03/19/2012 7:50:21 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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bttt


13 posted on 03/19/2012 7:52:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Free Vulcan
People get hired into the federal government because (1) they have no criminal records and (2) are not likely to get criminal records.

Most of them are intensely law-abiding.

If the Constitution says the new President takes office on a specific day, then that happens no matter what Obama says.

Everybody is part of the militia. Any opponents to calling up the militia under the circumstances specified in the above would, of course, be disposed of in a New York minute.

14 posted on 03/19/2012 7:53:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free Vulcan

Relax. The grown-ups will soon be back in charge.


15 posted on 03/19/2012 7:54:00 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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Look for Obama’s occupy wall street buddies create havoc over the summer with riots and destruction. Then when people start crying for it all to stop, Obama will declare martial law and suspend elections to hang onto power.

The occupy people are run by unions, anarchists, commies and funded by Soros and they want to bring down the government.

16 posted on 03/19/2012 7:54:26 PM PDT by BMC1 (OBAMA IS A THUG RUNNING A GANGSTER GOVERNMENT)
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“Most of them are intensely law-abiding.”

And because of that, when presented with a bunch of legal smoke with the threat of imprisonment or worse, they will comply.

And many in D.C. are just corrupt jackboot liberals who would LOVE for something like this to happen.


17 posted on 03/19/2012 7:58:35 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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Obama doesn't have the military in his pocket I firmly believe the military would not obey unlawful orders from and POTUS at any time.

The oaths sworn by the Military and various others are to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The Constitution, not any particular person, not any particular office, not even the Country, but the Constitution.

Should hussein take the actions outlined above, he would be unquestionably demonstrating himself as an enemy of the Constitution. There should be no doubt in the minds of anyone in uniform where their loyalty and duty lies. It would not be with a self-proclaimed, self-appointed dictator.

18 posted on 03/19/2012 7:59:47 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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You might have missed it but the federal government's employment base was shipped out to various places in the United States well over 100 years ago.

In fact, in the late 1800s the Post Office Department was actually operated from Chicago and only 3 employees worked at Post Office Department Headquarters in Washington DC.

Virtually all federal government employees are part of their local communities.

19 posted on 03/19/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BMC1

While I might agree that the administration realizing it’s on the way out might engage in some kind of scorched earth tactics, how exactly would the Fedgov prevent an individual state from holding elections?

Who would enforce a such a decree and under what legal authority?


20 posted on 03/19/2012 8:04:53 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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