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Zimmer-Trayvon Martin Killing. Letter from the City Manager. (Best concise telling so far)
City of Sanford Florida. ^ | March 19, 2012 | Norton N. Bonaparte, City Manager

Posted on 03/24/2012 6:32:10 PM PDT by Lowell1775

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

The Sanford Police Department has conducted a complete and fair investigation of this incident.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfordfl.gov ...


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This City of Sanford site has a downloadable pdf that gives the most thorough, dispassionate, and factual sequence of events. If it is a repost, I apologize. I am just seeing alot of the same questions being asked and liberal media BS being posted and reposted in confusion on many threads.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html

Why isn't this the story being told? Rhetorical of course.

1 posted on 03/24/2012 6:32:15 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Lowell1775
The .pdf is pretty enlightening. Thanks for posting.

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information


It's pretty interesting and worth the quick read.
2 posted on 03/24/2012 6:56:28 PM PDT by andyk (Tax credits for your kids == Welfare)
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To: Lowell1775
PDF LINK
3 posted on 03/24/2012 6:59:19 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Lowell1775

Let there be Light!!!!


4 posted on 03/24/2012 7:02:43 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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To: Lowell1775

Fellow Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going though. In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. Please understand that since this is still an ongoing investigation, the Police Department is limited in what information it can publicly release.

The City of Sanford is committed to insuring that justice is served and, therefore, the City of Sanford has contacted the United States Attorney General’s Office for assistance in this matter.

The men and women of the Sanford Police Department extend our heartfelt sympathies to the Martin family. This is indeed a tragic situation. The death of anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling. As this incident has generated a lot of media attention, we wanted to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions.

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.

According to Florida Statute 776.032 : 776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?

There are exemptions to the public records laws for active criminal intelligence and for ongoing investigations. In this instance, the 911 calls made by neighbors in the subdivision, and the non- emergency call made by Mr. Zimmerman are all key to the investigation by Sanford Police Department. In consultation with the Office of the State Attorney, the Sanford police department had decided not to release the audio recordings of the 911 calls due to the ongoing investigation. Many times, specific information is contained in those recordings which is vital to the integrity of the investigation. At the time, it was determined that if revealed, the information may compromise the integrity of the investigation prior to its completion. The 911 tapes have since been released.

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

Mr. Zimmerman holds a concealed weapon permit issued from the State of Florida. He is authorized to carry the weapon in a concealed manner wherever Florida Statute dictates. Neighborhood Watch programs are designed for members of a neighborhood to be “eyes and ears” for police and to watch out for their neighbors. They are not members of the Police Department nor are they vigilantes. Training provided by law enforcement agencies to Neighborhood Watch organizations stresses non-contact surveillance of suspicious situations and notifying police of those situations so that law enforcement can respond and take control of the situation.

Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred. He was in fact on a personal errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department.

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information. What about media reenactments of the shooting incident? Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

The Sanford Police Department has conducted a complete and fair investigation of this incident. We have provided the results of our investigation to the Office of the State Attorney for their review and consideration for possible criminal prosecution.

Although the Police Department is the target of the troubling questions, let me assure you we too feel the pain of this senseless tragedy that has dramatically affected our community. Therefore, as we move forward and strive to answer the questions that are a point of controversy in the community, we ask for your patience, understanding and assistance in getting the correct information to the community.

Thank you,

Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr., ICMA-CM City Manager March 19, 2012


5 posted on 03/24/2012 7:03:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lowell1775

The media would not have a sensational story which draws readers and dollars if a factual account were made available.


6 posted on 03/24/2012 7:03:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Lowell1775

This was posted a couple days ago and there are 149 replies (so far).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2862657/posts


7 posted on 03/24/2012 7:04:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: andyk
Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information

What does that answer mean? It doesn't make sense.

8 posted on 03/24/2012 7:08:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!
What does that answer mean?

It is a little hazy. I believe they mean to say that the victim's father relayed to the press an opinion of Mr. Zimmerman as if it were an opinion of the police.
9 posted on 03/24/2012 7:15:38 PM PDT by andyk (Tax credits for your kids == Welfare)
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To: Lowell1775

ping


10 posted on 03/24/2012 7:19:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Lowell1775
Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

Translation. The media is full of crap. As usual.
11 posted on 03/24/2012 7:21:29 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: Lowell1775

One big bowl of Inconvenient Truth.


12 posted on 03/24/2012 7:22:29 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Revolting cat!
I take the town manager's answer as the investigator reporting how Zimmerman portrayed himself, and Martin taking it as the investigator stating what the investigator believed to be factually true.

IOW, the investigator says "Zimmerman portrayed himself as squeaky clean," and Martin construed that as "the investigator said Zimmerman was squeaky clean."

13 posted on 03/24/2012 7:23:30 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Revolting cat!
My interpretation of “squeaky clean” was that it referred to Mr. Zimmerman's conduct with respect to the shooting, not to the totality of his conduct since the age of accountability. Mr. Martin apparently took it to mean he had no criminal record of any kind.

From the little nuggets of information grudgingly released by the media, the sainted Trayvon had a record too. Not much discussion of that; muddies the narrative.

14 posted on 03/24/2012 7:24:48 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined Effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: Lancey Howard

City Manager Bonaparte

15 posted on 03/24/2012 7:35:17 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Lowell1775

While this sheds a little more light on the shooting, it is STILL scant little light. I know that the FL law enforcement folks want to be as careful with this case as they can but, in the meantime, the DBM and the media whores (are you listening, Al Sharpton?) are stirring this into a racist event.

We don’t really know what happened and, so far, EVERYONE is operating from speculation and innuendo. We all need to take a breath and let the facts come out!


16 posted on 03/24/2012 7:38:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: gaijin

Wow. Our media is so corrupt!!!


18 posted on 03/24/2012 7:43:05 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: expat1000

A picture’s worth a thousand words.


19 posted on 03/24/2012 7:45:16 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Lowell1775

Is it me, or why can’t the media show a picture of Trayvon taken within the last three or four years?


20 posted on 03/24/2012 7:46:02 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: expat1000

Mr. Bonaparte did a pretty good (and fair) job with this statement.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 7:46:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Alissa

That is an understatement!


22 posted on 03/24/2012 7:48:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Alissa

That is an understatement!


23 posted on 03/24/2012 7:48:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: gaijin

No deceit by the media at all


24 posted on 03/24/2012 7:49:40 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: gaijin

are you sure those are the same Trayvon Martins?.. sure looks like different individuals to me


25 posted on 03/24/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: gaijin

Great post.

This is the MSM firing up blacks. They need a huge turnout.

The fake “war on women” is their other manufactured story.


26 posted on 03/24/2012 7:53:56 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: DustyMoment

“We all need to take a breath and let the facts come out!”

Dusty;
You be right.


27 posted on 03/24/2012 7:55:25 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: Lancey Howard

And your point is?


28 posted on 03/24/2012 7:57:04 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: gaijin

Where did you get these pictures?


29 posted on 03/24/2012 8:06:38 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Lancey Howard

>>Mr. Bonaparte did a pretty good (and fair) job with this statement.

I agree - absolutely.


30 posted on 03/24/2012 8:20:33 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: gaijin

The reason the PD couldn’t ID Trayvon is they looked in the morgue for an 11 year old kid wearing a Hollister sweatshirt.


31 posted on 03/24/2012 8:23:03 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: gaijin

Wow! Great find.


32 posted on 03/24/2012 8:24:36 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: gaijin

The moderator(s) is/are deleting copies of that `Trayvon All Grown Up’ photo. Do you know if it’s genuine?


33 posted on 03/24/2012 8:27:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: Lowell1775

Just so every one knows- if Obama were to have a dad , he would look like the city manager of Sanford, FL

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/frames/citymanager_frames.html


34 posted on 03/24/2012 8:27:51 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: Lowell1775; a fool in paradise

It’s an excellent report from a Son of Sanford, Mr Bonaparte. I can just imagine his parents (somewhere from the islands, I would guess), deciding on the name for the baby.

“Well, Bonaparte is real serious, too serious. To counteract that gravity, let’s name him after Ed Norton of the Honeymooners.”)


35 posted on 03/24/2012 8:35:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bigheadfred

Bookmark


36 posted on 03/24/2012 8:44:59 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: gaijin

Do the Media suppressed the image of a creepy looking guy and printed an adorable sad puppy dog. (I’ll let someone analyse your ‘victim’ pictures)


37 posted on 03/24/2012 8:47:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: samtheman
FACTS
38 posted on 03/24/2012 8:51:04 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: poinq

The photos of Trayvon all grown up come from his FB which is now scrubbed, from what I’ve been told. And sevearl of those photos were on FR on various threads but they’re all scrubbed except one that I know of. Who the aitch knows why.


39 posted on 03/24/2012 8:53:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Lowell1775

bfl


40 posted on 03/24/2012 9:07:28 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lowell1775

Thanks for posting this.

I’ll have to save for later reading.


41 posted on 03/24/2012 9:07:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: little jeremiah

Our society is quite litigious nowadays. Who knows why?


42 posted on 03/24/2012 9:18:05 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll
Could be this, I dunno!


43 posted on 03/24/2012 9:24:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: little jeremiah

Maybe privacy concerns or that he was 17, like you say—who knows?
But it’s good to hear they’re from his Facebook page and legit, since
FR is not CBS, the Hawaii Board of Health or WH presstitute Jay Blarney.


44 posted on 03/24/2012 9:24:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: Sea Parrot
Mr. Bonaparte did a pretty good (and fair) job with this statement.

"And your point is?"

My point is that I think Mr. Bonaparte did a pretty good (and fair) job with his statement.

Is English your first language?

45 posted on 03/24/2012 9:31:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Blacks kills whites/orientals/hispanics but does the One Party Press care and show similar outrage?
Crickets.

Blacks regularly murder.
But does Obaba care?


46 posted on 03/24/2012 9:41:19 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Back to back winning ideas: McCain in 2008 & Romney in 2012! What winners!)
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To: Captain Rhino

I read that Trayvon’s juvie records had been sealed...which would imply that he has a record.

Guess there’s no way to verify that though.


47 posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:06 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: OldArmy52
But does Obaba care?

That narcissistic, communist POS cares only about himself.

48 posted on 03/24/2012 9:52:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lowell1775
Zimmer-Trayvon Martin Killing. Letter from the City Manager.

Is the Zimmer referenced in the title related to George Zimmerman, the person who is accused of killing Trayvon Martin?

49 posted on 03/24/2012 9:56:47 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: tumblindice

Those blindly accepting those less flattering FB photos have been had.


50 posted on 03/24/2012 10:46:18 PM PDT by anglian
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