Posted on 11/13/2012 2:54:29 PM PST by bayliving
Ok, I come here looking for help and advice.
I defy you to tell the differece, once mixed and cooled overnight, from regular milk.
Bob’w also has dried whey powder, powdered buttermilk, lots of gluten-free mixes (GREAT pancake mix), buttermilk biscuit mix, corn grits, on and on.
theses are things you can eat regularly, no waste.And they are delicious.
Aslo, you can OVEN CAN them and they will last 20-30 years. Super simple way to store dry goods. Only needs canning jars and an oven.
I would avoid buyng online. There will be record - and if TSHTF, you can get a knock on the door. You are now a ‘hoarder’ not a storer. That makes you a felon - and they will take your food.
Stay under the radar.
I plan by the way I grew up - I’m a great grandmother - on a little farm on a ridge road with no electricity. We lived well.
If you can sell without being ‘under’, you may want to think about moving to where you have your own well for water and a spot for gardening. Or take half your money and make a deal for a piece of land - land is mostly sold through owner finance. If you have a piece of land, even if only a couple acres, with wood and garden space - near some source of water and/or can hand dig a shallow well, put on a pump...put up a shelter, put in a wood stove: shelter, waer, food, heat.
Learn the edible wild foods in the area. Learn how to fish, if you don’t know. Raise chickens for meat/eggs and rabbits for meat. I.e. foods that ‘reproduce” themselves...and good for bartering.
And for G’ds aake, don’t buy MRE’s!
I defy you to tell the differece, once mixed and cooled overnight, from regular milk.
Bob’w also has dried whey powder, powdered buttermilk, lots of gluten-free mixes (GREAT pancake mix), buttermilk biscuit mix, corn grits, on and on.
theses are things you can eat regularly, no waste.And they are delicious.
Aslo, you can OVEN CAN them and they will last 20-30 years. Super simple way to store dry goods. Only needs canning jars and an oven.
I would avoid buyng online. There will be record - and if TSHTF, you can get a knock on the door. You are now a ‘hoarder’ not a storer. That makes you a felon - and they will take your food.
Stay under the radar.
I plan by the way I grew up - I’m a great grandmother - on a little farm on a ridge road with no electricity. We lived well.
If you can sell without being ‘under’, you may want to think about moving to where you have your own well for water and a spot for gardening. Or take half your money and make a deal for a piece of land - land is mostly sold through owner finance. If you have a piece of land, even if only a couple acres, with wood and garden space - near some source of water and/or can hand dig a shallow well, put on a pump...put up a shelter, put in a wood stove: shelter, waer, food, heat.
Learn the edible wild foods in the area. Learn how to fish, if you don’t know. Raise chickens for meat/eggs and rabbits for meat. I.e. foods that ‘reproduce” themselves...and good for bartering.
And for G’ds aake, don’t buy MRE’s!
If the TSHTF, the real ‘silver/gold’ will be bartering goods, especially food.
a bag of dried vegetables makes a better soup than a silver dollar.
a bar of soap, a box of matches, a candle - a kerosene lamp would worth it’s weight in silver.
Don’t be an idiot.
Just buy 6 or 10 times what you normally buy of dried and canned goods.
If TSdoes’tHTF you’re saving money on future food bills, if it does you’re ready (food-wise).
So spend the four grand to save.
Check out this guy. He runs the SHTF ping list and has a preparedness manual (free I believe?).
My advice is make sure you have a few firearms of common caliber and a good deal of ammo before the prices go up.
From there, I recommend adding to your food stores at each shopping trip; I try to use one, buy two (or three) and sometimes more so when there are sales. Buy what you eat and eat what you buy.
It is nice to have MREs for emergency, but you'll want "normal" food too; trust me on that one.
One thing with prepping, it is a marathon, not a sprint. You can always ALWAYS ALWAYS use more; just don't go for broke all in one go.
Lastly, I saw a few folks recommend bulk food....if you go the freeze dried route, be careful of some companies (WISE) that claim a 25 year shelf life, but would be lucky to get 3-5 years.
Yep, completely agree, which is why I pointed out to him he should not be worrying about that.
I’m only looking into in case SHTF does NOT happen, but our currency sill gets devalued.
Hands down for silver- Gainesville Coin at gainesvillcoin.com. Best deal online.
Food- Emergency Essentials at beprepared.com. Shipping will usually eat you alive for food. Not here. Good Luck.
Oh and one other valuable thing to hoard: feminine hygiene products. Most people won’t think of hoarding these, but women will want them in a crisis.
Instead of silver I would buy Liquor and matches- Easy to store and I could sell these items or barter with them.
I drink scotch but am stockpiling quarts of Jim Beam.
It’s quality generic, holds its value, doesn’t go bad and since drunks often seem to be the only ones carted away alive from the catastrophic car wrecks they cause, I’m banking the same for apocalyptic conditions.
Liquid gold, series. But keep your shootin’ iron handy.
(And if things really go south, you’re covered there too.)
Go to walmart.com and search for Augason Farms
They sell hard wheat in pails
(this can be sprouted or ground for flour but you need a hand grinder to make flour)
They also sell powdered eggs , powdered milk , powdered butter in number 10 cans
You really can not get advice like this from others though as these things need to be tailored to your own family .
While I would not buy the premixed stuff because I am used to cooking from scratch it might be totally different for you.
Oh one more thing make sure you stash away some salt
I haven’t had to buy any in many years as it never goes bad and I got a whole lot of it one year free with coupons when it went on sale .
Look what is happening right before your eyes and take heed. There’s a Great Storm coming you can feel it.
Listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3
You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.
Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm banklet and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download it at:
http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf
NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!
For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”
I also like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:
http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/
http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/
http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/
And More
“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”
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As a caveat, I’m not encouraging drinking but suggesting it as a valuable commodity.
A. Lincoln on whiskey:
“The lanky orator spoke of whisky, commodity of trade, in his own forefathers’ time. “Even then it was known and acknowledged that many were greatly injured by it,” Lincoln asserted. “But none seemed to think the injury arose from the use of a bad thing, but from the abuse of a very good thing. The victims of it were to be pitied and compassionated, just as are the heirs of consumption and other hereditary diseases. Their failing was treated as a misfortune and not as a crime, or even as a disgrace.”
I believe his partner Herndon had a drinking problem, and his father drank a great deal and worked him like a mule.
Moderation in all things, except zeal in defending our country.
Once went to a race at Pocono and forgot my chew. Quietly remarked to my girlfriend what happened and had four guys offer their pouches. She's a city girl and was bowled over by how friendly everybody was.
What’s wrong with oxygen absorbers in sugar? I have 40 pounds of sugar with oxygen absorbers in mylar bags.
The bricks of .22ammo will be more valuable than silver as a barter item, as they are durable, easily portable and are also divisible down to single cartridges for trading. All these traits are hallmarks of a desirable medium of exchange.
As one other person said, a one-ounce gold coin will be useless to buy something with, as very few people can make change. If you insist on having gold, get the tiny (tenth-ounce?) coins. Also, recall that the Feds banned possession of gold during the Depression. Best storage spot I've ever seen was a friend who had an in-ground safe installed under the sump pit that handled waste from his basement bathroom. Only a brave soul unbolts the sealed cover, drains the pit, removes the grinder/ejector pump and the pit liner, and then still has to torch the door off the safe.....
Also consider mobility options. I prefer a dirt bike, because of good fuel economy and superior ability to avoid roads, which will be filled with hostile civilians or government/soldiers. All the food and gold in the world will be worthless if you get a “Maginot Line” mentality and lose your mobility. If the disruption goes on long enough, you have to assume that you WILL eventually be forced to move to a new location if local supplies are exhausted or the tactical situation gets bad (unrest, disease, etc.). 4-wheelers are ok, as you get better cargo capacity in return for less mobility. A good set-up might be one dirt bike for recon and one 4-wheeler as a follow-on cargo carrier. 4-wheeler is also good for novice riders or kids. As another poster wisely said, have the skills needed to fix/maintain survival related equipment. Basic mechanics tools, gunsmith tools and an ability to fix small engines, etc. will be great assets. If your transport craps out in the woods, the guy who can fix it on the spot is more valuable than any bag of silver coins.
And finally, I also recommend stripped AR lower receivers. You can get these for about $180 or so apiece. Recall that this is the only part of an AR rifle that is considered a firearm. Complete upper receivers are NOT firearms and neither are parts kits to finish off your lowers. These parts can be bought without restriction. Buy the lowers now, while they are still legal (in most states), you can always get uppers/parts later.
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