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First complete ice core record of last interglacial period shows the climate of Greenland ......
Watts Up With That? ^ | January 24, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/25/2013 11:35:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Study: ‘ Greenland ice sheet is not as sensitive to temperature increases and to ice melting and running out to sea in warm climate periods ‘.

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The climate graph shows the temperature from the previous warm interglacial period, the Eemian (left) throughout the entire ice age to present time. The blue colours indicate ice from a cold period, the red colour is ice from a warm period and yellow and green is from the climate period in between. The new results show that during the Eemian period 130,000 to 115,000 thousand years ago the climate in Greenland was around 8 degrees C warmer than today. The top shows a graph of ice sheet surface temperature and altitude. In the beginning of the Eemian, 128,000 years ago, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was 200 meters higher than today, but during the warm Eemian period the ice mass regressed, so 122,000 years before now the surface had sunk to a level of 130 meters below the current level. During the rest of the Eemian the ice sheet remained stable at the same level with an ice thickness of 2,400 meters. Credit: Niels Bohr Institute

From the University of Copenhagen

Greenland ice cores reveal warm climate of the past

In the period between 130,000 and 115,000 years ago, Earth’s climate was warmer than today. But how much warmer was it and what did the warming do to global sea levels? – as we face global warming in the future, the answer to these questions is becoming very important. New research from the NEEM ice core drilling project in Greenland shows that the period was warmer than previously thought. The international research project is led by researchers from the Niels Bohr Institute and the very important results are published in the prestigious scientific journal, Nature.

In the last millions years the Earth’s climate has alternated between ice ages lasting about 100,000 years and interglacial periods of 10,000 to 15,000 years. The new results from the NEEM ice core drilling project in northwest Greenland, led by the Niels Bohr Institute at the University of Copenhagen show that the climate in Greenland was around 8 degrees C warmer than today during the last interglacial period, the Eemian period, 130,000 to 115,000 thousand years ago.

“Even though the warm Eemian period was a period when the oceans were four to eight meters higher than today, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was only a few hundred meters lower than the current level, which indicates that the contribution from the Greenland ice sheet was less than half the total sea-level rise during that period,” says Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, and leader of the NEEM-project.

Past reveals knowledge about the climate

The North Greenland Eemian Ice Drilling project or NEEM, led by the Niels Bohr Institute, is an international project with participants from 14 countries. After four years of deep drilling, the team has drilled ice cores through the more than 2.5 kilometer thick ice sheet. The ice is a stack of layer upon layer of annual snow fall which never melts away, and as the layers gradually sink, the snow is compresses into ice. This gives thousands of annual ice layers that, like tree rings, can tell us about variations in past climate from year to year.

The ice cores are examined in laboratories with a series of analyses that reveal past climate. The content of the heavy oxygen isotope O18 in the ice cores tells us about the temperature in clouds when the snow fell, and thus of the climate of the past. The air bubbles in the ice are also examined. The air bubbles are samples of the ancient atmosphere encased in the ice and they provide knowledge about the air composition of the atmosphere during past climates.

Past global warming

The researchers have obtained the first complete ice core record from the entire previous interglacial period, the Eemian, and with the detailed studies have been able to recreate the annual temperatures – almost 130,000 years back in time.

“It is a great achievement for science to collect and combine so many measurements on the ice core and reconstruct past climate history. The new findings show higher temperatures in northern Greenland during the Eemian than current climate models have estimated,” says Professor Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute.

Intense melting on the surface

During the warm Eemian period, there was intense surface melting that can be seen in the ice core as layers of refrozen meltwater. Meltwater from the surface had penetrated down into the underlying snow, where it once again froze into ice. Such surface melting has occurred very rarely in the last 5,000 years, but the team observed such a melting during the summer of 2012 when they were in Greenland.

“We were completely shocked by the warm surface temperatures at the NEEM camp in July 2012,” says Professor Dorthe Dahl-Jensen. “It was even raining and just like in the Eemian, the meltwater formed refrozen layers of ice under the surface. Although it was an extreme event the current warming over Greenland makes surface melting more likely and the warming that is predicted to occur over the next 50-100 years will potentially have Eemian-like climatic conditions,” she believes.

Good news and bad news

During the warm Eemian period there was increased melting at the edge of the ice sheet and the dynamic flow of the entire ice mass caused the ice sheet to lose mass and it was reduced in height. The ice mass was shrinking at a very high rate of 6 cm per year. But despite the warm temperatures, the ice sheet did not disappear and the research team estimates that the volume of the ice sheet was not reduced by more than 25 percent during the warmest 6,000 years of the Eemian.

“The good news from this study is that the Greenland ice sheet is not as sensitive to temperature increases and to ice melting and running out to sea in warm climate periods like the Eemian, as we thought” explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen and adds that the bad news is that if Greenland’s ice did not disappear during the Eemian then Antarctica must be responsible for a significant portion of the 4-8 meter rise in sea levels that we know occurred during the Eemian.

This new knowledge about past warm climates may help to clarify what is in store for us now that we are facing a global warming.

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Niels Bohr Institute: http://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/

Documentary films: http://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/sciencexplorer/earth_and_climate/


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First complete ice core record of last interglacial period shows the climate of Greenland to be significantly warmer than today

1 posted on 01/25/2013 11:35:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 01/25/2013 11:36:25 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
during the Eemian period 130,000 to 115,000 thousand years ago the climate in Greenland was around 8 degrees C warmer than today.

Wow everybody must have been driving muscle cars and heavy duty pickup trucks then,

Yep; global warming is fact! Got it you bunch of deniers!

3 posted on 01/25/2013 11:45:01 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“The good news from this study is that the Greenland ice sheet is not as sensitive to temperature increases and to ice melting and running out to sea in warm climate periods like the Eemian, as we thought” explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen and adds that the bad news is that if Greenland’s ice did not disappear during the Eemian then Antarctica must be responsible for a significant portion of the 4-8 meter rise in sea levels that we know occurred during the Eemian.

Or your facts about the 4-8 meter rise in sea level are incorrect.

4 posted on 01/25/2013 11:51:04 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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“First complete ice core record of last interglacial period shows the climate of Greenland to be significantly warmer than today”

The Alien copper mining operations in the Great Lakes region must have been using a lot of fossil fuel guzzling motor vehicles!!!!! LOL - Because without artificial increase of CO2 it is just not possible for it to have been that warm. /sarc


5 posted on 01/25/2013 11:55:37 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Viking keggers, clear in the yellow bands....


6 posted on 01/25/2013 11:57:41 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Such surface melting has occurred very rarely in the last 5,000 years, but the team observed such a melting during the summer of 2012 when they were in Greenland.

Great! Is that when they began to see the farms that used to be there during the Middle Ages? Whenever the ice melts, they always seem to find settlements from when Greenland was somewhat thriving. Nowadays its far too cold for such activity.

7 posted on 01/25/2013 12:03:28 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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“...the bad news is that if Greenland’s ice did not disappear during the Eemian then Antarctica must be responsible for a significant portion of the 4-8 meter rise in sea levels that we know occurred during the Eemian.”

And this is bad news because...? The ice sheet in Antarctica is getting thicker. There is some melting on the perimeters, but overall, the ice mass is increasing, not decreasing.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 12:16:16 PM PST by pjd
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Breaking News: Ice Fields Are Cold - they take a long time to warm up.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 12:17:52 PM PST by bagman
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To: Pontiac

during the Eemian period 130,000 to 115,000 thousand years ago the climate in Greenland was around 8 degrees C warmer than today.

But if it was 8 degrees warmer than today there should have been NO ICE WHATSOEVER!!!! I am calling bunk on this because the the greenies said that if the TEMP goes 2 degrees WARMER than today ALL THE ICE IN GREENLAND WOUKLD MELT!!!!


10 posted on 01/25/2013 12:21:11 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Wuli
The Alien copper mining operations in the Great Lakes region must have been using a lot of fossil fuel guzzling motor vehicles!!!!! LOL - Because without artificial increase of CO2 it is just not possible for it to have been that warm. /sarc


11 posted on 01/25/2013 12:22:53 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Pontiac

Nope. It was the Reagan tax cuts.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 12:30:27 PM PST by Manta (Obama to issue executive order repealing laws of physics)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The new results show that during the Eemian period 130,000 to 115,000 thousand years ago the climate in Greenland was around 8 degrees C warmer than today.

Best part right there. (FWIW that's about 16 degrees farenheit warmer)

13 posted on 01/25/2013 12:38:47 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The ice is a stack of layer upon layer of annual snow fall which never melts away, and as the layers gradually sink, the snow is compresses into ice. This gives thousands of annual ice layers that, like tree rings, can tell us about variations in past climate from year to year.

Wrong. They assume these are annual. A few warm days and refreeze will cause the same effect.

The P-38 fighters found in Greenland a few years back were under 300+ rings in the ice cores. The scientists had egg on the face when they "confirmed" 300+ annual rings only to later be hold they sat on top of aircraft landed during WW2.
14 posted on 01/25/2013 12:44:54 PM PST by jps098
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To: GraceG
The evidence is mounting higher and higher that Anthropomorphic Global Warming is pure unadulterated bunk.

If you are not a AGW denier you are not paying attention or you are receiving a grant to study climate change.

15 posted on 01/25/2013 12:46:11 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Manta

Women and minorities affected most....


16 posted on 01/25/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Manta

Oh yeh and the subsequent economic boom and industrial growth.

Darned capitalist!


17 posted on 01/25/2013 12:55:08 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So if the ice sheet has never melted in the last 115,000 years, how did the Vikings find this to be a ‘Greenland’? I’m calling for more thought.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 1:48:20 PM PST by Wingy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So is Al Bore paying careful attention to this.... :)


19 posted on 01/25/2013 2:14:41 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Wingy

“In the beginning of the Eemian, 128,000 years ago, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was 200 meters higher than today, but during the warm Eemian period the ice mass regressed, so 122,000 years before now the surface had sunk to a level of 130 meters below the current level.”


20 posted on 01/25/2013 3:10:58 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Wingy
So if the ice sheet has never melted in the last 115,000 years, how did the Vikings find this to be a ‘Greenland’? I’m calling for more thought
21 posted on 01/25/2013 3:58:13 PM PST by terycarl
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So if the ice sheet has never melted in the last 115,000 years, how did the Vikings find this to be a ‘Greenland’? I’m calling for more thought

Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery old Vikings!

22 posted on 01/25/2013 4:01:55 PM PST by terycarl
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To: TigersEye

The Eskimos were out in their shorts and bathing suits....


23 posted on 01/25/2013 5:18:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach!

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


24 posted on 01/25/2013 10:36:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My observations.

10 - 12 Thousand years ago civilization was just getting started.

They did not have cars back then.

They must have polluted extensively, why else would the levels be approximately the same as today’s environment?

The population of the planet was a mere (Partial) percentage of what it is today and yet the planet temperature is about the same. It just feels like it is warmer because we have to deal with so many more dunder heads then they did 12,000 years ago.

Man has little effect on temperature (globally at least). Earth is much more powerful than all the little bugs crawling around on its surface (ie - us).


25 posted on 01/26/2013 1:49:32 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This new knowledge about past warm climates may help to clarify what is in store for us now that we are facing a global warming

Not necessarily. If you look at the Antarctic ice core data, which spans several ice ages, you see that each interglacial maximum is a little cooler than the previous max. So, the Holocene may never reach the high tempeature of the Eemian.

If the human race survives the next ice age, the long term cooling trend should be very worrying.

26 posted on 01/28/2013 2:34:35 PM PST by colorado tanker
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