Posted on 08/04/2013 7:40:15 AM PDT by lasereye
BELLFLOWER, Cal. – This week’s debut of Ray Comfort’s latest film was met with such overwhelming interest that his ministry’s website temporarily crashed as a result of the number of visitors trying to download the new movie.
As previously reported, New Zealand-born evangelist Ray Comfort has released several influential films and documentaries in the past, including 180—a 2011 movie about abortion that has received several million views. His latest project, Evolution vs. God, features interviews with several well-known evolutionist professors who struggle to provide observational evidence supporting evolutionary theory.
“As you will see on Evolution vs. God,” Comfort told Christian News Network last month, “not one of the experts could give me a whisper of evidence for Darwinian evolution. The movie is going to shatter the faith of the average believer in evolution, and strengthen the faith of every Christian.”
On Thursday, a pre-release version of Evolution vs. God was made available for the first time as a $19.99 MP4 download, and Comfort’s ministry’s website quickly became overloaded by the barrage of traffic.
“It began slowly and built to over 1,000 people,” Comfort told reporters. “That’s a huge amount of people to be downloading an entire movie, and it proved to be too much for our site. It crashed.”
Comfort also believes that one of the indicators of the 36-minute movie’s effectiveness is the attention it has received from several well-known atheists. Richard Dawkins mentioned Comfort’s project to over 750,000 followers on Twitter. PZ Myers—one of the evolutionist “experts” interviewed in Evolution vs. God—angrily called Comfort a “liar” and “a dishonest fool,” labeled the movie a “monstrosity” with “Jesusy nonsense,” and then posted the entire film on his blog. And the group American Atheists recently posted a 700-word “critique” of the movie, claiming it is “misleading” and “shameful” with an “overwhelming number of fallacies.”
“[Comfort is] ruining science education with this nonsense,” the American Atheists critique states. “We are the only advanced country on this planet that denies evolution on anything close to the scale that we do. People from other countries laugh (at first), then recoil, when they realize that we’re not joking when we say half of our country not only doesn’t believe evolution is correct but can’t properly define it. … We are not ‘related to’ primates; we ARE primates.”
The recent onslaught of criticism aimed at Evolution vs. God leads Comfort to believe that the film is striking a cord with the evolutionist community.
“I’m no prophet,” he told reporters, “but I will predict that there are going to be full-scale attacks on my character, because atheists want to stop this movie from being seen. Many of them are very angry. But for me, this is a hill to die on, and I’m ready for battle and for whatever that brings with it.”
Meanwhile, dozens of influential Christian leaders have conversely praised Evolution vs. God, opining that it reveals the true weakness of Darwinian evolution, while strengthening the faith of the average Christian.
“The bottom line is that molecules-to-man evolution is a lie and there is no observational scientific evidence that confirms it,” wrote Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, in a Wednesday blog post. “On the contrary, observational science confirms the account of origins as given in Genesis. I believe Evolution vs. God will do a lot of ‘damage’ in the minds of many in the general public who have been indoctrinated to believe evolution is fact … It will be very eye-opening for young people who have been brainwashed by their teachers to believe that evolution is fact.”
On July 22nd, Answers in Genesis will be hosting the world premiere of Comfort’s film at their Answers Mega Conference in Sevierville, Tennessee. Then, on August 7th, both the DVD and YouTube versions of Evolution vs. God will be made publicly available.
In related news, Barney the Dinosaur will broadcasting a show about String Theory and Monopoles and the application of the Heisenberg Principle thereto.
The evolution vs. God debate is a fallacy in and of itself. First of all, ‘evolution’ is an accordion term that can mean anything from the simple ‘descent with modification’ postulation to very intricate theories of common ancestry.
Asking ‘God or evolution?’ upon viewing life is similar to asking ‘designed or manufactured?’ upon viewing a car. Evolution’s problem comes not in its logic, but in its probability. The math just isn’t there in the timescale given, indicating that whichever path you take, you will always end up with a situation in which a Creator is undeniably more likely than chance.
Satan uses whatever he can to disprove GOD - even creation.
The darwinettes don't like the Truth that's why they are so easy deceived by him.
GOD is the Creator of ALL, so get over it, idiots, It Is Finished, and it's not going to change.
I remember attending a lecture at Oregon State University back in the early 1990’s by a mathematics professor from Texas A&M (I believe) that attempted to ‘calculate’ the probability of the existence of God. He used random probabilities of non-living materials (amino acids, etc) in the presence of optimum temperature and time to formate a single cell. Based on his calculations, which were shown on a 70’ blackboard, the odds were something like a 1 with several hundred zeros behind it. Obviously he came to the conclusion that for life to evolve randomly, without a Creator, was mathmatically ZERO.
Wish I could remember his name as I’d love to revisit his work.
Forget what the evolutionists uses the word to cover - the bottom line is 'do you believe what God says or man'. It is really as simply as that. From there - one takes it's path.
It's a fool who think they can understand the Supernatural and fools they will continue to be. Satans uses fool to try to disprove GOD; unfortunately, they are born every minute.
Being wise in their own eyes, they became fools.
"What sorrow for those who are wise in their own eyes and think themselves so clever." Isaiah 5:21
I’m not a great mathematician, but I have read some very interesting theories on probability in the past. Particularly pertaining to when improbability becomes impossibility. Many believe by factoring the estimated number of atoms in the universe into a probability calculation, you can find out if something is so improbable, that in this universe, it actually becomes impossible.
The question of God is really a philosophical question, not a scientific one, but I can say that mathematics is remarkably useful in the field of natural theology. It is the language of the universe, and perhaps even the language of God.
Through science he did an excellent job of demonstrating the folly of Big Bang and random mutations leading to life as we know it.
A universe that contains a special place of habitation for complex, conscious life is so truly remarkable that it is, realistically speaking, impossible to believe it is the result of a series of cosmic accidents. To choose to believe that there is a naturalistic explanation for (a) the mathematical forms encoded in the laws of nature, (b) the precise specification of the nineteen universal constants and (c) the remarkable initial conditions required for star formation and the simplest living systems is to believe in a miracle by another name.
I can illustrate this notion very simple using a sheet of paper, iron filings, and a magnet. If you were a 2D spatial being living on the paper surface (the 2D universe of your sensing), the iron filings would represent imprints one the paper, but not the complete filing, since each of those iron filings have 3D characteristics that are unsensed by the 2D world. If a 3D or 4D being uses the magnet to move the filings around, those in the 2D universe will have no clue whay the filings are behaving as they collect along the magnetic lines of force.
We humans live in what is described as a 4D universe, where three "Ds" are spatial and one "D" is temporal. we have a somewhat primitive concept of dimension Time and have not much clue regarding spatial variable beyond 3. But we do have some 'gathering' clues regarding dimensional expression variable greater that what we have been fabricated to sense directly. The inability to 'see' magnetic lines of force is an example, but there are examples of crystalline structures like the non-stick coating on cookware which give indications that the crystalline deposits are being 'influenced' by dimensional realms we have yet to detect directly [see Lisa Randall's book, Warped Passages, specifically pages 18 and 19].
Because neither side of the evolution versus designer origins argument have the entire system in which our being has arisen, neither side can 'prove' anything and both sides are based in faith not proofs.
It’s all about the new Commandment: Government knows best.
There are a lot of court cases decided on a lot less evidence who’s verdicts you would be in agreement with. How foolish to bet against God and his incredible intellect and awesome character and holiness. Human behavior, alone, confirms the truth of God’s Word everyday. I’m not against science at all but I think its highest purpose is to showcase God’s greatness, his eternal power and majesty - to reveal his creation in all its fascinating and intriguing detail. Many of the great scientists of the past were committed Christians and saw no contradiction in being so (scientist and Christian). If anything, their faith guided them in their discovers. There have always been and always will be (until the judgement) arrogant self-righteous individuals who can think of no being smarter than themselves. Gee, let’s see now, what was the original sin? Go read Psalm 2 and get your mind right before it’s too late. How much proof does anyone need? Even a casual examination of your own heart (if a person is honest) should reveal the truth of God’s Word. The real King is returning and I believe soon. In the book of Rev. it talks about a time in the near future when an angle will fly back and forth across the sky proclaiming the everlasting Gospel of the Kingdom of God to the inhabitants of earth. There he is flying across the sky and shouting to all those on earth. Guess how many people heed his message? You guessed it, ZERO. At that point in time everyone knows God’s on his throne. They know he is getting ready to end human history as we know it - but they do not repent - they’re actually plotting war against Him. Now friends, that is real arrogance and real hatred for God. That type of thinking is what passes for wisdom today. And that is what I think the REAL problem is. Yes, there are individuals that really are looking for the truth and hoping that science will show the way but I’m inclined to believe that their numbers are few. Even in view of the sacrifice of Christ, God’s Son, on the Roman cross, the self life (living for “me” and “my” pleasures) is just too tempting for most people - they’re simply not interested. They don’t seem to understand the true riches that God is offering. Look at our nation - what it was at its founding and where we have “progressed” today. That should be enough to convince anyone about the true nature of the human heart and its need of redemption. Science won’t save us.
The left has used science to ‘prove’ their position for decades and guess what? They have been successful in molding society to their like. No God in public, higher taxes to combat pollution, shutting down industry to benefit the environment, etc. If we want to make similar societal changes, IMO we better start using science to bolster our positions (and shooting holes in the oppositions positions) or we’ll continue to be labelled the knuckle dragging anti-science party.
Darwinism is gospel in our public school system yet there isn’t one example of macroevolutionary change that has led to a specie jump! Why? It’s because our side relies on faith to explain our position rather than use science.
I’t not often you get to see anemic network infrastructure become a propaganda opportunity.
>>The math just isn’t there <<
1) TToE is not part and parcel of, nor dependent upon, Abiogenesis. That strawman is standard fare for non-scientists. If you require Abiogenesis proof for TToE, you need it for all natural science, including cosmology, geology and astronomy. (note: the age of the Universe DOES have the math).
2) The math IS there when you realize Evolution is a STOCHASTIC process, not a RANDOM one (yet another strawman)
You would be better off listening to Barney on String Theory.
Now that I have made it clear to external lurkers that we DO understand science, I leave this thread since the echoes are way too loud for my tender ears.
The statement that evolution is a stochastic process is FAR from scientific consensus.
The heart of evolution is circular reasoning. Interpret all the fossils assuming evolution, then use your interpretation as “proof” of evolution. Rinse and repeat.
A STOCHASTIC process IS a RANDOM one. Who did this math anyway Barney? I'd be interested in seeing it. You aren't referring to that ridiculous thing Dawkins came up with are you?
tatown to Viennacon, post #5: "...he came to the conclusion that for life to evolve randomly, without a Creator, was mathmatically ZERO."
Viennacon to tatown, post #7: "The question of God is really a philosophical question, not a scientific one..."
First of all, remember that the number of single cell reproductive events since the beginning of life on earth (circa 4 billion years) is in the orders of magnitude of 5 X 10 with 50 zeros.
And if each reproduction resulted in only one mutation, that's still plenty of opportunity for evolution to operate.
Second, there is no possible way that single-celled life was "born" fully formed out of "primordial soup".
It may have arrived (panspermia) aboard some comet, but more likely it developed here in small stages, one inevitable baby-step at a time, such that given Earth's favorable conditions, the end result was not improbable, but rather inevitable.
And the reason you should believe life's rise on earth was inevitable is because that must have been G*d's plan from the beginning.
So, call it science and evolution, or call it G*d's plan and Creation, life's rise on earth was not improbable, but rather inevitable -- regardless of what some math professor calculated on a chalk-board, somewhere, some-time... can't quite remember any more...
;-)
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