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What’s so special about John Moses Browning?
WeaponsMan ^

Posted on 10/17/2013 1:05:37 PM PDT by virgil283

"Browning was not a degreed engineer, but he is, to date, the greatest firearms designer who has ever lived. Consider this: had Browning done nothing but the 1911, he’d have a place in the top rank of gun designers, ever. But that’s not all he did, by any means. If he had done nothing but the M1917 and M1919 machine guns, he’d have a place in the top ranks of designers. If he’d done nothing but the M2HB, a gun which will still be in widespread infantry service a century after its introduction, and its .50 siblings, he’d be hailed as a genius. One runs out of superlatives describing Browning’s career, with at least 80 firearms designed, almost 150 patents granted, and literally three-quarters of US sporting arms production in the year 1900 being Browning designs – before his successes with automatic guns.......[ read it all - its very well writen]

(Excerpt) Read more at weaponsman.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; browning; johnmosesbrowning
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To: Chainmail
Quite right. The list of Browning's designs surpasses both our lists! A couple more examples: his M1903 and M1805 pistols were very popular and there were many more successes.

The biggest gun that Browning designed was the M4 (later M9) 37mm cannon. The M4 and M9 were installed on P-39 fighters ans the M9 on WW2 PT boats.

21 posted on 10/17/2013 2:54:34 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: eartrumpet

Browning demonstrated the M-1917 belt fed machine gun to the Army. Linking belt after belt, he fed ammunition to it, and it fired, and fired. He topped of the water jacket in between attaching belts. Eventually after 45 minutes of continuous fire, he had exhausted all the ammunition. No stoppages. Nicht, Zero, Nada.

He then pulled out a handkerchief and tied a blindfold over his eyes. He disassembled the gun blindfolded, putting each part on a table in front of the assembled officers, down to the last part. He then reassembed it blind folded and performed a function check. It is important for soldiers to be able to perform maintenance on machine guns in the dark, without lights.

He did it again a few months later, because some of the officers thought it might be a trick.


22 posted on 10/17/2013 3:16:50 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: W.

The Remington Rolling Block was offered from .22 up to 11.43mm. In 1898 in Cuba, there were a lot of them around.


23 posted on 10/17/2013 3:18:45 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: MasterGunner01

Oops, a couple of typos. Should read “M1905” vice “M1805” pistols. Should be “and” vice “ans”. Blasted fumble fingers!


24 posted on 10/17/2013 3:19:36 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Chainmail

If you look at the safety lever on the Kalashnikov, you will see an heir to the Auto 5.


25 posted on 10/17/2013 3:19:44 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: Mastador1

No arguing about it. Tesla is, was, and perhaps may always be the greatest human being inventor ever.

They STILL don’t understand some of the things he came up with in 1899.


26 posted on 10/17/2013 3:22:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

No arguing about it. Tesla is, was, and perhaps may always be the greatest human being inventor ever.

They STILL don’t understand some of the things he came up with in 1899.

They are still hiding some of the things he came up with.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 3:25:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: virgil283
Bttt.

5.56mm

28 posted on 10/17/2013 3:31:35 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MasterGunner01
Wife has a nice vintage nickel 1908 Hammerless in .380 ACP. I gather Capone and others like him carred the gun because it was a precursor to todays "dehorned" carry guns and sat well in a coat pocket. It is very sleek.

It is a nightmare to tear down completely. No idea how he designed such an intricate mechanism back then. Hardest gun to assemble I ever came across. Beautifully fitted though.

29 posted on 10/17/2013 3:40:26 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: donmeaker

That amazing “M-1917 blindfolded field stripping and reassembly” trick was also important for Marines, especially GySgt. John Basilone, on Guadalcanal, October 24 - 24, 1942. Seventh Marines, First Division. His Congressional Medal of Honor citation actually read “. . . contributed in large measure to the virtual annihilation of a Japanese regiment.” Those guys ran out of water, though, and so they refilled the water jackets of their guns with urine.


30 posted on 10/17/2013 3:49:26 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: donmeaker
The first fully automatic machine gun was invented by Hiram Stevens Maxim in 1884. Unable to interest the US Army in the gun, Maxim marketed it in Europe. The Maxim or its variant made by Vickers was adopted by many of the major powers that fought in WW I: Great Britain as the Vickers-Maxim; Germany as the Spandau (after the arsenal); Russia as the Maxim. Eventually the US Army got around to purchase the gun (about 300+) from Vickers as the M1916 .30 Heavy Machine Gun. The later Browning .30 M1917 machine gun was far superior to the M1916 Vickers.

There is a funny story about Maxim and his gun in Russia. Maxim arrived in Russia with his gun to demonstrate to to a bunch of Czarist officers. While he was awaiting the demonstration date and his gun and belted ammunition to arrive at the site, he was shadowed by the Czar's secret police, the Okhrana.

When the demonstration day came, Maxim explained the operation of his gun to the Czar's officers who had no idea what an automatic machine gun was. These officers’ only exposure had been to the manually cranked Gatling (called Gorloff by the Russians). When Maxim explained about the cocking handle and how it cycled with the gun, one officer said he'd like to see a soldier move the handle at 660 rounds per minute!

Maxim inserted a belt, cocked the gun twice to index the belt and chamber a round. He then pushed the trigger bar and fired the whole belt of 300 rounds without touching the cocking handle — that continued flipping back and forth as the gun fired.

The Russian officers were absolutely dumbfounded by what they had witnessed. The recommendation was the Maxim be adopted in numbers for the Russian Army. The Maxim soldiered with the Russian Army from 1910 and into the 1950s before it was replaced by lighter and newer designs.

31 posted on 10/17/2013 3:50:38 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: doorgunner69
I think there's one pistol that gives your Browning 1908 Hammerless a run for its money in the hard to disassemble and reassemble department: the Ruger Mk I (and subsequent) .22LR pistols. The Rugers are very popular with sportsmen and target shooters, but the gun is a major PITA when it comes to cleaning and maintenance. The best .22LR auto pistol is the High Standard, IHMO. It's easy to clean and maintain, Plus, it has quick change barrel that goes on or off with the push of a button..
32 posted on 10/17/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Don’t forget that his (Maxim’s) son had patents on some of the first suppressors.


33 posted on 10/17/2013 4:02:29 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: donmeaker

That’s a good design. The hammer locks the breech block just before firing. Easy, yet effective!


34 posted on 10/17/2013 4:17:44 PM PDT by W.
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To: MasterGunner01
Normal field stripping of the 1908 is easy. Uses the old rotate the barrel to unlock method.

Her gun had sat in her mother's drawer for decades and had to be completely disassembled for cleaning out the gunk. Getting sear springs and sears back together was insanely difficult.

A friend had a Mk1 but maybe never stripped it, never mentioned anything about it. But then, he was not a gun guy and maybe never was into cleaning things.

35 posted on 10/17/2013 4:23:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: eartrumpet
I read a biography of him once. My favorite story was when he was a Mormon missionary in Georgia, I think. Back then they lived off the charity of others and sometimes there wasn’t much charity so he and his partner were looking pretty shabby. In a store window they saw a new Winchester that he had designed and sold before he went on his mission. He hadn’t seen the finished product so he asked the store owner if he could look at it. No. Get out of here, you bums.

I read a different version of that story. I believe the rifle was the "High Wall" model, his first successful design. Browning and his brothers had made and sold a few in Utah before selling the design to Winchester. Anyhow, Browning convinced the store owner to let him examine the rifle. The store owner reluctantly agreed. After a few minutes of handling, the store owner commented that Browning seemed knowledgeable about the rifle. Browning replied, "I should be, I designed it". Then the store owner snatched away the rifle and showed who he believed to be a smartass kid the door.

36 posted on 10/17/2013 4:25:26 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: virgil283
I love my matched set 12ga and 20ga.

FMCDH(BITS)

37 posted on 10/17/2013 4:27:25 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Antihero101607
Believe it or not, the cylindrical mufflers on most two-cycle and four-cycle gasoline engine lawn mowers are actually taken from the Maxim sound suppressor (silencer) designs. Maxim's suppressors were very efficient.
38 posted on 10/17/2013 4:29:06 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Ahh, the PITA is getting that hammer strut where it belongs after you wiggle and twist the bolt stop/mainspring housing into place. Always a good time, I had to do it over the phone to my boss. Blargh...


39 posted on 10/17/2013 4:29:09 PM PDT by W.
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To: W.
One of the most impressive weapons turned out by John Moses, was the BAR.Lots of fire power, deadly, portable.
40 posted on 10/17/2013 4:33:48 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (The lessons of Wiemar are soon to be relearned,)
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