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If We Could Start Our Own Country Called "Free Republic", What Would Our Constitution Say? (Vanity)
12/5/13 | One Vike

Posted on 12/05/2013 11:08:57 AM PST by OneVike

Let us pretend for a moment, or longer if the idea takes off, that we found some uncharted land or won our freedom from America, and began our own country.

Let us also pretend we had a convention of Freepers who were charged with deciding what our new constitution would say, and what rights our new Government would be limited to.

After seeing the destruction of the United States, and knowing how it came about, I wonder if we could write a new constitution that would stand the test of time?

I'll start by offering these suggestions for consideration as amendments.

  1. All households shall be required to own, and have knowledge of how to properly operate, fire arms for defense.

  2. All human life begins at the moment of inception and thus, shall receive the same protections as all humans who have been born.

  3. A family unit shall be defined as a human born as a man and a human born as a woman who live together in a union of marriage.

  4. All elected government officials shall obey all laws voted upon and agreed to by the people.

  5. The shall forever remain sovereign and free of influence from all political jurisdiction outside the boundaries of the nation.

  6. The rate of taxation shall never rise above the level where all basic essential services are fulfilled.

  7. Unless a citizen is physically unable to perform tasks needed to earn a living, they shall never receive assistance from others through taxation from another citizen via the government.

  8. The government shall never be involved at any level of education outside of training an individual for military service.

  9. Every able bodied male citizen shall serve a minimum of 4 years of military service.

  10. No elected official shall ever seek to change or weaken any original amendment to the constitution as agreed upon by those individuals charged with constructing the constitution.

  11. All new amendments must obey all the original amendments, but they themselves can be amended by new amendments.

Any other suggestions?


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To: DoodleDawg

We want a country where all children will know how to use one, why they should use one anmd that no one has a right to stop them from using one.

Eliminate that, and eventually you will have a generation of anti gun wackos.

We must learn from the past, or we will inevitably repeat it.


81 posted on 12/05/2013 11:52:54 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
6. The rate of taxation shall never rise above the level where all basic essential services are fulfilled.

There is a risk that what constitutes "basic essential services" will creep upwards over time.
There should be a safeguard to prevent that.

82 posted on 12/05/2013 11:53:20 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: OneVike

Since another LOTR movie is coming out, how about: One Ring To Rule Them All?


83 posted on 12/05/2013 11:53:31 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: OneVike

12. You receive a fair trial BEFORE you hang.


84 posted on 12/05/2013 11:54:11 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: OneVike

I would modify #9 to read that while military service is not REQUIRED, no mal who has not served may vote or hold office.

I would also require that *ALL* communications, data and memoranda of the government be declassified after a period of 20 years. Secrets are sometimes necessary, but keeping something classified for longer than a generation is not.


85 posted on 12/05/2013 11:55:08 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: DoodleDawg

True, but i figured others would add those while I made a rough draft of what i thought was missing considering history we know have to learn from. So add them.

get on the list of those who would frame the constitution and add them.

Must leave for lunch. I am late already and my soup is getting could.


86 posted on 12/05/2013 11:55:17 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike; All
this is my constitution:

“The only types of laws that government at any level may pass are those that deal with an individual or entity initiating force against another individual or entity”

for example no murder, no assault , no stealing, no vandalism, no kidnapping, no trespassing, no harassment

a threat to me is speech and that can't be prevented but repeated threats is harassment and there should be laws against harassment.

an individual should have right to property, to life, privacy, freedom, to be left alone,

gov should only act as a referee(courts,police) in cases where one individual or entity accuses another of violating one of these rights. but only after due process of law shall an individual’s freedom or property be taken away.

yes the federal gov can do military , border control but that and the above are it. no more gov. than that is needed.

since you only have military, border control ,immigration control , police and courts in gov then taxes can be much lower than the 60% we pay now if you combine all taxes.definitely don't need an income tax nor IRS. a simple sales tax or tariff is all that is needed

87 posted on 12/05/2013 11:55:32 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: OneVike

Pretty much what have now with the following additions:

Term limits on all elected and appointed officials.

Ban of all political parties. Candidates state their positions, people vote on the merits of the individual candidates.

Ban the Federal Reserve and the IRS. Do away with the income tax. Go back to funding Federal Government via tariffs and or sales taxes.

Balanced budgets, unless state of emergency exists. Must be approved by 2/3 of all Congress.

Vote of confidence procedures for the President. If 2/3 vote no confidence, a new election must be held within 3 months. Recall elections for all judges, Congressman if a certain portion of the electorate signs a petition. I don’t know what that number should be yet.


88 posted on 12/05/2013 11:55:43 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: OneVike
Hmm...OK, we have a convention, to which everyone who wants to be a member of government can write in detail what they want their fellow citizens to do and precisely how they want them to behave, what rights they'll be allowed, and what percentage of their income - hopefully small - they'll be allowed to keep.

While they're doing that we open the valves and drown the entire lot of the bastards.

89 posted on 12/05/2013 11:57:24 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: OneVike
Here is a better one:

1) A Freeper may not injure another Freeper or, through inaction, allow another Freeper to come to harm.

2) A Freeper must obey the orders given to it by other Freepers with earlier sign up dates (No "I lurked here for 12 months before I signed up excuses"), except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3) A Freeper must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

90 posted on 12/05/2013 11:58:15 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: OneVike

No law, rule or regulation shall be written in anything other than American English and shall in no way take up more than one 8 1/2” X11” sheet of paper in 14 point type.


91 posted on 12/05/2013 11:58:24 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: OneVike

It would be easier to just use the one we already have. It’s available since the current .gov apparently doesn’t need it or use it.


92 posted on 12/05/2013 11:58:34 AM PST by woerm (student of history)
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To: OneVike

11. NO RINOS.


93 posted on 12/05/2013 11:59:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: OneVike

You have to be more specific. For example the “commerce clause” of the Constitution has been interpreted to give Congress virtually unlimited power to force the people to do anything. Also, Congress has created dozens of agencies and has given them the power to create “rules” with the weight of law so Congress doesn’t have to get its hands dirty. To remedy that I propose the following:

“No government agency, organization, or entity created by Congress in the past or future shall have legislative or judicial powers. For the purpose of this amendment, “legislative power” shall be construed to mean the making of any rule violation of which renders a citizen, legal entity, corporation, or company of any state or the United States to imprisonment, fine, excessive or punitive fee, or other punishment. “Judicial power” shall be construed to mean, the holding of any evidentiary hearing not presided over by an Article III court or the issuance of findings which result in imprisonment, fine, or punishment of a citizen, legal entity, corporation, or company of any state or the United States.”


94 posted on 12/05/2013 12:00:17 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Eepsy

that is one great plan it would be interesting to watch the C-Span broadcast of dimwit buerorats trying to save their various sinecures. smirk


95 posted on 12/05/2013 12:01:25 PM PST by woerm (student of history)
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To: OneVike
Not all person's born on Free Republic soil are citizen. They must be citizen's of mother homeland until made natural citizen's~
96 posted on 12/05/2013 12:03:26 PM PST by Isabel2010
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To: NormsRevenge

12. no democrats. deport all democrats and illegals


97 posted on 12/05/2013 12:03:52 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: OneVike

I would keep the one we have. It is great, but I would add term limits
The House and senate to only meet for 3 months twice a year.
An age limit on those who serve.
Restrict the Presidents Executive order.
If a law is needed it must be passed. No more ruling through regulations.
ID for Voters
Only those who pay taxes vote.


98 posted on 12/05/2013 12:07:20 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: DoodleDawg

You won’t be forced by the government to buy health insurance, so use that money when the government forces you to buy weapons. Problem solved! Hope there are subsidies.


99 posted on 12/05/2013 12:08:17 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: OneVike
We want a country where all children will know how to use one, why they should use one anmd that no one has a right to stop them from using one.

You want a government mandate. I want a country where the rights of individuals are respected. I own several guns. My sister and her husband own none. I no more would want my sister to be told that she must own a gun anymore than I would want someone to tell me I can't own a gun. The current Second Amendment says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It doesn't say "the requirement".

100 posted on 12/05/2013 12:09:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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