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Girl scarred by pit bull attack asked to leave restaurant
wapt ^ | Angela Williams

Posted on 06/15/2014 7:11:01 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

The problem with pit bulls is not that they have a natural predisposition to attack anything in their way.

No. The problem with pitbulls is that if they do decide to go off the deep end, they have the physical ability to do serious damage to just about anyone or anything.

There should be a special license issued to the humans who own pitbulls that verify that they have the ability to control their dog. Absent that, no dog...


81 posted on 06/15/2014 11:13:15 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
I have friends with 2 Am Staffs. My friends talk to their dogs as if they are their kids and they refer to me, to the dogs, as Uncle Dave.

I'm usually greeted in the yard, before I get to the door, by two bounding, whiny, bundles of muscle. And the rough housing ensues.

When taking the 2 anywhere, it's always good to have a firm grip on the leash. The dogs are GREAT with people, but are very dominating when it comes to other dogs. ESPECIALLY the female.

There has been more than one time that one or both of the dogs have been reared back, to keep them from turning someones (foolishly) brave, yappy, UNleashed dog into lunch.

Pits/Am Staffs are WONDERFUL dogs, providing they are raised and trained properly. Owners have to know and understand their dogs traits and act an train them accordingly.

82 posted on 06/15/2014 11:13:41 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rovenstinez

Didn’t you read the story? Grandfather shot 2 of the 3 dogs; the 3rd was euthanized.


83 posted on 06/15/2014 11:18:58 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: All

This little girl doesn’t look so scary.
They should try hanging out with the panhandlers and drug addicts that frequent the fast fooderies around here. And some smell bad, too.


84 posted on 06/15/2014 11:19:34 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: mountn man

I get it
dangerous breed. My 8 yr old pit has never ever so much as growled at the 200 plus kids he has met.
He did bark his head off when section 8 tenants ripped my sons arm from its socket and nearly poked my other sons eye out.
Even then he just barked.

No matter what breed i use caution near kids.


85 posted on 06/15/2014 11:19:49 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HnodredscottIM all things are possible.)
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To: All

The pit bull thing is a real hot button issue. My personal opinion is that it’s a lot breeding, some conditioning and some just individual dog personalities. It’s hard not to notice that pit owners often fit a certain demographic. But as I said, it’s an extreme hot button issue and I usually avoid it in discussion forums.


86 posted on 06/15/2014 11:24:37 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: Donnafrflorida
No matter what breed i use caution near kids.

WOW!!! Common sense

(not very common anymore)

87 posted on 06/15/2014 11:26:24 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: SamAdams76

That’s a good point, too.

Now I see a lot of problems with dog breed bans. What about mixes? Would they do what they do with wolf hybrids? Keep in mind that a lot of pit owners are not famous for obeying rules and laws. Many own illegal wild animals as pets.


88 posted on 06/15/2014 11:35:34 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady
My personal opinion is that it’s a lot breeding, some conditioning and some just individual dog personalities.Ding ding ding ding. There you go.

When I got my most recent dog, I told the breeder what personality traits I was looking for.

There are breed characteristics, but deeper still are individual personality (or dogality) traits.

It’s hard not to notice that pit owners often fit a certain demographic.

Very true. I have a friend who questioned/ recommended that I get a dog like a Doberman or Pitbull.

I'm about 6', at the time I was about 200#, built like a football player. He figured a guy my size should have a "mans" dog. My response was that I don't need a dog to "protect" me. Don't beware of dog. Beware of owner.

I had an Irish Setter then and I have an Irish Setter now. (Had the gentlest Golden between the 2).
Irish Setters are characteristically very happy, gregarious dogs with a strong stubborn streak. PERFECT for me.

89 posted on 06/15/2014 11:42:57 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Texan5
... vicious dog list-not only have I kept a dreaded Chow Chow ...

So what is that supposed to prove?

91 posted on 06/15/2014 11:52:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: BenLurkin; LostInBayport

THAT is the little girl who was “too disfigured” to be in a restaurant??? I agree with LostInBayport, the complaining customer should have been escorted by the scruff of their neck out onto the sidewalk and told to never darken their door again. Gawd! My heart goes out to her.


92 posted on 06/15/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: NonValueAdded

bttt


93 posted on 06/15/2014 11:58:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; P-Marlowe
[P-Marlowe:] there is something in the genetic makeup of pit bulls that makes them prone to vicious behavior

I would agree with that. People should think about animal breeding and what that means.

I would firmly disagree.

Go back 100 years -- were horses fast? Well, yeah ... but not as fast as today. We've bred thoroughbreds to be very, very fast. The downside is that they tend to be fragile. Maybe not all thoroughbreds are fragile, but there are many examples of top horses that were very fast and damaged themselves because of it. We bred the horses to be fast and we have to accept the downside.

Animal husbandry cannot measurably change a breed in a mere hundred years. Such a thing would necessarily, by means of inbreeding, cause weakness and collapse of the breed - ex: German Shepherds whose inbreeding has notoriously caused hip displaysia to become commonplace. American German Shepherds are almost gone, as breeders hearken back to the German Alsatian lines to fix the problem.

Pit bulls are the same way. Were they dangerous 100 years ago? Well, yeah: they were capable of handling bulls ... but they weren't as crazy as they are today. Pit bulls became a very popular breed, in part, because unsavory people liked 'em. They were bred fast (always a bad thing) and they were (often) bred because they were relentlessly violent. Some people liked them that way.

I have seen, in my lifetime, the very same accusation against Dobermans, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. ALL dogs have a pack mentality. ALL dogs have a kill switch. ALWAYS the hardest thing to train into a dog is a verbal override - The ability to call the dog off of an attack, and more problematic, off of a kill. This is a matter of poor training. Period.

94 posted on 06/15/2014 12:08:33 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Qwackertoo

Yes, horribly cruel.


95 posted on 06/15/2014 12:10:26 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: 9YearLurker; mountn man
The risk of a dog grows not only with size and power but also with a breed bred to fight and the idiocy of the type of owners who put others at risk by owning such unnecessary hazards.

LOL! Y'all live in the city, dontcha?

96 posted on 06/15/2014 12:13:22 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Grew up on a farm in the country, am in the ‘burbs presently.


97 posted on 06/15/2014 12:17:01 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: roamer_1
Hey...I'm not one afraid of a dog breed.

I think Pits and Am Staffs are great dogs.

98 posted on 06/15/2014 12:18:34 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

Irish Setters are wonderful dogs.


99 posted on 06/15/2014 12:20:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BenLurkin

They’re trying to claim that that precious little angel was scaring people? They are scum. She should be surrounded by love and approval.


100 posted on 06/15/2014 12:20:58 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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