Posted on 08/27/2014 9:04:23 AM PDT by Feynman
I have a few questions regarding the Michael Brown shooting.
The presumption that the police officer used excessive force (or murder as often suggested) is based on the story told by Michael Brown’s friend. Brown's friend clearly either lied or was mistaken based on the autopsy. What other parts of the story did he get wrong?
If a person is walking in the middle of the street - not the sidewalk, would that not be a reasonable justification for a police officer to stop and ask the person to move to the sidewalk?
Michael Brown had just robbed a store. If Brown had reason to believe that the police might have been looking for him, would that not be a reason for the attack on Officer Wilson even if the officer didn’t know that?
If Officer Wilson had just been attacked by Brown, had his eye socket shattered, and a struggle for the gun resulted in its firing, would that officer have reason to believe his life is in danger?
If Officer Wilson’s eye socket had been crushed as is being reported, could that have hindered his vision to the point as to make it hard to determine if Michael Brown had a weapon?
Is it relevant to ask if Michael Brown was on drugs (it has already been reported that he had marijuana in his bloodstream), and if so, is it possible that it could have contributed to his aggressive response to Officer Wilson?
If Michael Brown had bull-rushed Officer Warren as many witnesses are reporting, and if he had already just attacked officer Wilson moments before and tried to get his gun, would Officer Warren have reason to believe that had Brown reached him, he would have killed him?
If it is character assassination to point out that Michael Brown just robbed a store, is it also not character assassination to accuse Officer Warren of murder and racial profiling before the facts of the case come out?
Young black men are far more likely to die from other young black men, so why is that more acceptable, and where is the national outrage over that simple fact?
NO ONE has yet talked about the fact that this little giant was NOT following Michelle Obamas RULES about sugar, junk food, and was not eating his vegetables. I wonder if this all could be traced to a sugar buzz that got it’s start in the cafeteria that Michelle is in charge of.
He made a previous false police report...
...not a credible witness.
Dorian Johnson has admitted they robbed the store and has lawyered up.
My question is what was Dorian Johnson doing at the time of Micheal Brown was attacking Officer Wilson.
The star witness was probably intoxicated as was the gentle giant. The gentle giant did not seem to care about attracting police presence. If anything he seemed to go out of his way to cause a confrontation- robbery on cam, walking in middle of street, attacking a cop.
Sounds to me like Dorian’s lawyer found out the police have some kind of evidence and he’s telling his client he better come clean or...
When a murder happens (victim or perp) during the commission of a crime, all the participants of that crime can be charged with murder.
So what was Dorian Johnson doing while Micheal Brown was attempting to take Officer Wilson's gun?
This case becomes unwinnable for the prosecution, if anything beyond weed shows up in the toxicology report, and if the angle of fire is level or going upward into the ‘gentle giant’. The whole story has to work with both gentlemen cooperating (as the witness says) and the cop standing in a superior position to them. Anything beyond that, and it’s just no way possible to win the case.
As for the second drug in his system....I can only speculate that it’s PCP, which means he was in full control of his mind. As a jury member....I couldn’t convict anybody if the victim fell into this category.
“If a person is walking in the middle of the street - not the sidewalk, would that not be a reasonable justification for a police officer to stop and ask the person to move to the sidewalk?”
Apparantly walking/jaywalking/stopping your car to talk in the middle of the road should be allowed because they get awful upset when they’re honked at or asked by the police to move along. They are being targeted dammit!
This happend recently in my town. A guy from out of town was in the middle of the street talking to somone in their car and was asked or told by an Office to get out of the road. The guy jumped the officer and severely beat him and even got to his gun but the office managed to stop him. All the while the people watching were egging him on. He’s got several charges on him now but he could be dead instead.
Anyway it’s a big discussion in town now about how they are unfairly treated. They cry all the time that there’s not enough police presence too by the way.
Didn't Rodney King have PCP in his system. what happened to those officers.
First, one must understand that the right and left define justice differently. One side sees the process of collecting the evidence, making a judgment based upon that evidence whether to charge and have a trial; and then if a trial is warranted the evidence being presented by both sides and rebutted by the other in front of a jury who make a guilty or not guilty verdict based upon the evidence presented to them in court. For myself, the process described is in fact providing justice for all involved. The left, by contrast, demands “outcome based” justice. Meaning as far as the left is concerned justice is only done when the verdict they want is rendered, damn the facts. This is shown clearly in the statements of the various elected democrats like Governor Nixon and that wacko state senator. It is also encapsulated in the words and actions of Obama, Holder, Harris-Perry, Ogletree, Dyson, Sharpton, Jackson et al. These people howling for justice will only have their need for revenge satiated if Officer Wilson is convicted, and they care not about what the facts and forensics will eventually prove. Personally, conservatives like myself and you, I suspect, have the attitude that whatever the evidence and forensic scientists proves, provided it is all done honestly, is what we will accept as the truth about what happened that lead to the death of Michael Brown. If the evidence and forensics ultimately prove the officer was wrong and the shooting was not justified then he should be charged and tried appropriately and if found guilty should go to prison. this is an attitude that to the left is much like sunlight to a vampire. If on the other hand the evidence proves that the Officer reasonably believed he had to shoot in self defense due to Mike Brown’s actions then the officer should not face any further problems and should be allowed to go back to his life. Unfortunately, in our fundamentally transformed America, no matter if he is ultimately found to have acted properly he and his family will forever have to be looking over their shoulder. Along with the transformation to outcome based justice in America, it is also being transformed into a country with nothing more than mob rule, like what is seen throughout the 3rd world. And take a look around the world, the entirety of western civilization is under assault and being undermined by immigration and transformed in the same way as we are. Dinesh D’Souza (sp?) was correct; Obama didn’t create this movement towards transformation, it created him. Think about that for a moment and what it means vis-à-vis the question; from where does the core threat to western civilization actually emanate.
Yet no tox reports have come out?
Doesn't take the Sinola's silent partners long to slander their biggest competition.
No the violent mindless zombie behavior is extremely likely a result of cannabis prohibition, artificial cannabis aka spice/salts.
But feel free to believe the govt. G_d himself gave us that plant, and it is nothing short of a miracle!
“If a person is walking in the middle of the street - not the sidewalk, would that not be a reasonable justification for a police officer to stop and ask the person to move to the sidewalk? “
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Yes !!!!!
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It’s all in attitude. If the police tell you to stop walking in the middle of the street, your attitude determines the next action.
Give the police the typical ghetto attitude that says “**** you cracker I be walking wherever I wants” and you can expect trouble.
They were acquitted by the first jury who heard and saw all the evidence. They were convicted by a federal jury because the judge excluded the most exculpatory evidence that there was. The infamous Rodney King video that we have seen adnaseum, shows only the last 80 or so seconds, the beating portion of the video. In the first trial the jury was allowed to see the entire video which is about 5 minutes long. It shows the other two black men who were with Rodney King obeying the police officer’s orders, being handcuffed and put in the back of a cruiser without the cops beating the crap out of them, then comes Rodney King and he is seen disobeying the police and eventually charging at and attacking a female officer, it is then the other cops start beating Rodney King. The federal judge ordered the only portion of the video that was admissible was the portion from where the beating began could be presented to the jury. That is very clearly a judge fixing the case likely due to political considerations. And remember President Bush the elder prejudiced the case against the officers to begin with thus the judge, knowing where his bread was buttered did what he had to do to make sure the officers were convicted in an attempt to satiate the revenge lust displayed by the mob, which now seems to infest our daily lives.
The drug question is what I want answered.
Marijuana has a mellowing effect.
Brown’s attitude and actions sound much more like meth, coke, steroids, something like that.
You can test positive for marijuana a long time after the exposure, IIRC up to 6 months.
IMO he was strung out on meth, possibly steroids.
Doubtful it was meth. Meth heads tend to loose a lot of weight real fast because they do not eat very often when addicted to meth. I know because I was there once. Yes meth makes you very and much more prone to violent reactions but at a full 294lbs I doubt he was strung out on meth. More than likely they were smoking blunts and maybe turning them into what us old timers used to refer to as a Sherman. Basically it was a joint with angel dust ore coke or sometimes both sprinkled in. Of course it could be true that meth might be found in his tox report because he may not have been strung out on it maybe he just used it occasionally and he might have before the encounter.
Nor have they talked about him ‘bullying’ the store owner and maybe the cop. I thought that ‘bullying’ was about one of the worst crimes out there...
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