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Possible answer to LGBT lawsuits against Small Business Owners
10/12/2014 | B4Ranch

Posted on 10/12/2014 11:02:27 AM PDT by B4Ranch

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" I have been discussing with numerous Christian lawyers and judges in three states, a possible solution to the lawsuits LGBT clientele bring forth against Christian Small Business Owners for having strong religious beliefs."

Did these lawyers happen to mention that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights and that the Supreme Court has clarified that the 14th Amendment applies only constitutionally enumerated rights to the states regardless of pro-gay, PC interpretations of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protections Clause now by activist judges?

Did these lawyers also mention that the states where these hate crimes against Christians are occuring are in violation of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment imo? This is because Section 1 prohibits the states from making laws / policies which unreasonably abridge the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens, the 1st Amendment's protection of religious freedom in this case.

In other words, the states are wrongly using constitutionally unprotected gay "rights" to trump constitutionally protected religious expression.

41 posted on 10/12/2014 11:56:47 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Divorcing Christian observance from social approval might have some salutory effects

As long as I still have the right to vote I can't, and won't do that.

And as long as I still vote these secularists will continue to accuse me of "imposing my belief system" on them.

But I see your point. And I agree modern "Christians" have done this for a long, long time.

It won't be a revival, it'll be a pestilence and flood.

42 posted on 10/12/2014 11:59:05 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: Amendment10

Yes a few of them did mention that the laws are currently swung to the Left. They all hoped we don’t have to wait too long before the reversal swing starts.


43 posted on 10/12/2014 12:00:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We are simply trying to survive to fight another day without denying our Saviour.


44 posted on 10/12/2014 12:02:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: zipper

No it isn’t a pestilence, it is simple acceding to the truth of what God tells us.

If you’re a friend of the world, you are an enemy of God... ZING!

Can’t get any straighter than that.

Christians have long known that discretion and God-orchestrated opportunity is needed when sharing gospel. You don’t just cram the whole ball in the world’s face any which way in the power of the arm of flesh, and then scream bloody murder when the inevitable results.


45 posted on 10/12/2014 12:03:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: B4Ranch
I don't own a wedding business. If I did, this would be my sign.

Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, and said, ‘FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH’? “So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” - Jesus Christ

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." - The United States Constitution

Do you have any questions?

46 posted on 10/12/2014 12:04:03 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: B4Ranch

You’ve been spoiled by a relative lull in overt demonic activity. That lull is pretty much over.


47 posted on 10/12/2014 12:05:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Bryan24

I think if this were to be litigated the 1st Amendment route probably has the best hope.

But some more perceptive folks might ask, why are you picking on homos when you don’t pick on divorcees etc.?


48 posted on 10/12/2014 12:06:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, I haven’t been spoiled. I just refuse to take part in what too many consider normal. I carefully screen clients before I accept their business. Not everyone has the will, the time or can afford to be selective. This thread is for them.


49 posted on 10/12/2014 12:10:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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"Yes a few of them did mention that the laws are currently swung to the Left."

Thanks for the quick reply.

Did they mention the specific points about the 14th Amendment that I mentioned?

50 posted on 10/12/2014 12:10:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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A while back someone here posted that the business owners should post a sign saying they donate all proceeds from such weddings to reversal therapy organizations.

Excellent!

51 posted on 10/12/2014 12:11:34 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: B4Ranch

You’ve changed the topic, and anyhow even your screening could be attacked in a court and then what?

You need not to formulate your own plan by your own understanding, but truly and really obey God.


52 posted on 10/12/2014 12:12:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Amendment10

Two judges did.


53 posted on 10/12/2014 12:12:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: aimhigh

Or a percentage of proceeds from “all business” ... at least that might buy you some time till they regroup.

No humanly crafted formula will win in the end. It has to be dynamic, and coordinated in real time by the Lord.


54 posted on 10/12/2014 12:13:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No it isn’t a pestilence, it is simple acceding to the truth of what God tells us.

?? I said a pestilence will be visited upon us, and a flood.

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If you’re a friend of the world, you are an enemy of God

Yes, keep yourself set apart.

55 posted on 10/12/2014 12:17:39 PM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: Hostage

The GLBT will probably target church or church-related organizations. A church could be sued for violating local laws barring gay employment discrimination or the federal tax exemption (which also bars discrimination).

One might argue for religious freedom for the pastor but not for jobs in the church that don’t directly involve preaching or counseling. Some big hairy guy will walk in with pink hair, hoop earrings, high heels and fishnet stockings and demand a job as a janitor.


56 posted on 10/12/2014 12:18:52 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: zipper

Well if you want to approach it from that angle, then consider how God says to address pestilences. Remember we are in New Testament now.


57 posted on 10/12/2014 12:19:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: zipper

But be careful not to be seen as throwing a tantrum that your once Christianized world has been spoiled. It never really was actually Christian.


58 posted on 10/12/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DannyTN

Hang a sign that says all proceeds from gay wedding cages ....Man, you struck gold, right there and don’t know it!


59 posted on 10/12/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: B4Ranch

I would just tell them to kiss my pimply butt, just like I did for Democrats and muslims at my gunshop. No muzzscum ever came in but if they did they would have been told to get the hell out. I chased more than a couple of Obama voters out. I have since closed the shop due to health reasons, but I would have closed it down before doing business with the enemy.


60 posted on 10/12/2014 12:23:55 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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