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There Was No Way a P-51 Could Replace the A-10
War is Boring ^

Posted on 12/17/2014 8:16:56 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The U.S. Air Force has a complicated relationship with its low- and slow-flying A-10 Warthog attack jet. And that's putting it mildly. The flying branch has tried more than once to retire the ungainly A-10 in favor of speedier planes, only for ...


TOPICS: Humor; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: a10thunderbolt; josephtrevithick; warisboring; warthog
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To: txnativegop

Please show you work wrt the A-10 equivalent with a prop and its cannon.


21 posted on 12/17/2014 8:56:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: miliantnutcase

22 posted on 12/17/2014 8:58:38 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Paladin2

Since the A-10 is the only aircraft to use the cannon it carries . . .

use a scaled up MG42 MG with a rod and cam attached.

I am no artist nor a technical type.


23 posted on 12/17/2014 9:06:31 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

P51 is a gorgeous plane but, it’s not going to do what an A10 does and protect the pilots.


24 posted on 12/17/2014 9:14:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Paladin2
Over twice the wing area,
1/3 again as long,
Twin turbo fans vs. V-12 Prop,
1200 rounds of 30mm DU vs. 1800 rounds of .50cal,
8 hard points with 5X takeoff capacity.


25 posted on 12/17/2014 9:18:56 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: txnativegop
I'm unclear ont eh cannon firing rate vs. prop blade passing rate and the variations of each plotted up.

It's certainly possible to avoid the prop blades, but just how tough is it?

26 posted on 12/17/2014 9:19:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Delta 21
I have no doubt as to the A-10's abilities to get the job done.

Some C-130's could assist to clear out the ISIS columns traveling across the desert roads of "The Levant".

27 posted on 12/17/2014 9:22:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That PA-48 is one damn neat plane, though, if in a totally different class.


28 posted on 12/17/2014 9:26:20 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Sasparilla

Years ago I did some work at an airport that had two A-10’s; must have been a small reserve group or something. But every morning they would head out.

Mid-morning I had my client come out to me and tell me not to be near that end of the runway where I had been. The A-10’s use it to sight-in their gun, and accidents can happen.

One afternoon I was standing on the roof of my van parked in the grass taking some photos of the ground. The two of them came in for a landing side-by-side. Well - the one landed, and the other came right over me by 20 feet or so! I laughed and said “Well, I’m dead!” He circled around and landed.


29 posted on 12/17/2014 9:27:41 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Sasparilla

Back when A-10s were still at Barksdale, we had several “Country neighbors” who were A-10 drivers. Many a time we would get buzzed by these bad boys up close.

If you were a bad guy the last you would want to see would be a Warthog coming in close.


30 posted on 12/17/2014 9:27:48 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: smokingfrog

“The A-10 is the red-headed stepchild of the Air Force.”

The Air force is being forced to choose between which of its many children it must sacrifice due to 30 years of major budget cuts. There are many Air Force officers who understand and respect the need to keep a dedicated close air support mission alive in the Air Force, but they are being sidelined by these budget cuts. Look at how long the Air Force has been waiting to replace its dangerously aging air tanker fleet. This disaster waiting to happen affects all of the combat and air transport aircraft, including the A-10. Anyone who wants to support the A-10 needs to demand the earmarked funding to do so.


31 posted on 12/17/2014 9:31:54 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Paladin2

it is just a matter of timing, how long will the projectile take to get from firing point to the prop disk.

the fastest rate of fire that I am aware is 1500 rpm.

but for the basics of it try this :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronization_gear


32 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:04 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; All

HA, What a coincidence.
I’m watching an old 12:00 High episode, and it is about the first P-51s to show up in the European Theater:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734468/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2


33 posted on 12/17/2014 9:34:05 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Paladin2
I'm unclear ont eh cannon firing rate vs. prop blade passing rate and the variations of each plotted up. It's certainly possible to avoid the prop blades, but just how tough is it?

Many WW II aircraft had nose-mounted machine guns firing thru the propeller arc. They were synchronized so as to avoid damage.

Apparently, it was no big deal.

34 posted on 12/17/2014 9:34:25 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Talisker
Transfer the A10 to the Army.

The USAF response to that is like the typical 4 year old.

I hate my plane. I don't want it any more.

Well then give it to the Army. He wants to play with it.

Nooooooo! I love my plane. It's my favorite and the Army can't have it because I want it forever.


35 posted on 12/17/2014 9:41:40 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Vendome

Battle-damaged 926th TFG A-10A Warthog Desert Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BecNTYPYbU

How the A-10 Warthog became ‘the most survivable plane ever built’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEdy84YGf1k


36 posted on 12/17/2014 9:47:37 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The Warthog is a BEAST!!! Kicked the shit out of the Republican Guard in the Gulf War !!!


37 posted on 12/17/2014 9:48:15 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: WhiskeyX

Heck yeah.

I’d like a couple for myself.


38 posted on 12/17/2014 9:49:50 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lmo56

Did a pretty good job on Mutla Ridge, too.


39 posted on 12/17/2014 9:51:18 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Paladin2
I'm unclear ont eh cannon firing rate vs. prop blade passing rate and the variations of each plotted up.

It's certainly possible to avoid the prop blades, but just how tough is it?

It took a pretty smart Fokker to invent the interrupter gear to fire the machine gun when the prop isn't in the way.

40 posted on 12/17/2014 9:52:53 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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