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Seahawks lead league in PED suspensions under Pete Carroll
ESPN ^ | 1/24/14 | espn

Posted on 01/24/2015 8:30:18 AM PST by edzo4

The Seattle Seahawks lead the NFL in suspensions for performance-enhancing drugs since Pete Carroll became coach in 2010, research by ESPN Stats & Information shows.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: cheaters; seahawks
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this is 100% as relevant as the mysteriously deflated balls.. Both teams should be banned, disbanded, coaches should be hung and everyone executed.. or not, because it’s a meaningless sporting event.


41 posted on 01/24/2015 10:44:01 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: edzo4

The Patriots are cheaters charge, case closed, is absurd.

The rules violation in Spygate was simply this: they videotaped the Jets coaches from the field. If they had videotaped them from a stadium booth it would have been fine. Here’s the NFL rule: “No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game...All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.”

Last week Raven coach John Harbaugh charged the Pats with running illegal formations. Turns out they were perfectly legal, according to the NFL office.

Anything else?


42 posted on 01/24/2015 10:46:55 AM PST by vekzen
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To: airborne
The Fix Is In
43 posted on 01/24/2015 10:53:58 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

It depends upon the environment in which the balls were originally inflated. If they were inflated in a 70 degree locker room, and then taken outside to a 45 degree playing field, presumably the PSI of the balls would drop to some extent.

If they had been barely within the lower PSI limit, they likely would have dropped below that limit when taken out into the cold.

This whole thing is academic as the Patriots destroyed the Colts in the second half when supposedly the Patriots’ footballs were within the proper PSI range.

As to the playoffs and the NFL, I don’t give a hoot as many players, teams, and NFL management are corrupt.


44 posted on 01/24/2015 11:11:40 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: edzo4

However, the final judgment should be based on the laws of thermal dynamics and include known rates of diffusion of gases, including air, through membranes. At least at this point the old classical PVT=NRT should be a guide for a reasonable resolution including penalties.


45 posted on 01/24/2015 11:22:47 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: edzo4

One more reason.

NFL?

NFW.


46 posted on 01/24/2015 11:26:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SamAdams76

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if we find out that two weeks ago, the Seahawks, the Patriots, the NFL and NBC had a secret meeting.

“You guys win the playoffs, then create a controversy about deflated footballs, and we’ll talk it up in every media outlet, Then, we’ll charge an extra $500,000 per minute for commercials during the Super Bowl after the viewership skyrockets. After the big game, we’ll get together and divvy up that $500,000 extra per minute amongst ourselves. What do you guys say? Are you in?”

I know, I know. But after six years of Obama, and now the crying Cheeto and that turtle McConnell, we’re living in a bizarre world where nothing should surprise us anymore.


47 posted on 01/24/2015 11:36:02 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Everytime the cash register rings in a gun store, a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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To: edzo4
No proof they cheated anyone with a fourth grade education knows that the psi will decrease in cold weather. If the balls were properly inflated and measured per the rules of the NFL and then decreased in pressure from the weather that is not cheating.

Since this is the first time the NFL has played football in the cold I guess it can be excused then. Also, football players cannot be expected to do the math, P1V1/T1=P2V2/T2, It's way to fricken complicated./s

48 posted on 01/24/2015 11:38:13 AM PST by D Rider
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To: D Rider

Wow you are all such experts so what temp was the air in the balls when they were tested? What psi were they when first tested? What psi were they after the game? What psi were the colts balls before the game? What psi were the colts balls after the game? You don’t know. And as I said if they cheated they deserved to be fined until then stfu.


49 posted on 01/24/2015 12:57:18 PM PST by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
I was one of the Armstrong defenders for numerous reasons. One was that for a time I believed him and felt he was being singled out when others have been over looked. That is borne out by the fact that Riis, Pantani and Contador are still listed as champions while Armstrong has been removed.

But most of all I see sports as entertainment, maybe more so than athletic competition. Here, I agree with you on hanging on to childish fantasies. We seem to admire people doing extraordinary things that we can only dream of. So we make stars of people who's faces and bodies have been altered with surgeries and silicone so they can appear in a way that is supernatural. So, why not let athletes use whatever they wish to turn out the best performances that will make their fans swoon with envy?

If you could ask anyone turning pro if they would trade future health for youthful fame and fortune, most would probably say yes. So, I say, "let's open the door and let 'em all run with what ever they want".

At some point the desire for true performance might prevail and "clean" competitions will become more interesting. Until then, if it's all dream teams and dream drugs - what the hell?

50 posted on 01/24/2015 1:06:13 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: edzo4

51 posted on 01/24/2015 1:23:21 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Grampa Dave

Good question - are PED tests before and after the game???


52 posted on 01/24/2015 2:15:56 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

“Good question - are PED tests before and after the game???”

Thanks for phrasing my doubts into a good question.


53 posted on 01/24/2015 3:11:17 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Will French, German & Belgians make anti-terror raids on our White House, AG Dept and Homeland Sec.?)
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To: scrabblehack

Nope. A couple of times a year, most are scheduled well in advance but there’s one “surprise” test every year. You pretty much have to be dumb or unlucky to get caught.


54 posted on 01/24/2015 3:14:50 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: SamAdams76

You’re wearing your thinking cap tonight. Spot on.

We’re watching a scripted play unfold.


55 posted on 01/24/2015 6:13:57 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: edzo4

LOL.

As if someone else’s opinion, and the abysmal play of a different team, absolve you of your need to abuse those who disagree with you.


56 posted on 01/24/2015 7:11:59 PM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: MortMan
Patriots didn't cheat jets still suck sorry.

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Bill Belichick on Deflategate: Patriots 'followed every rule to the letter

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/01/24/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-tom-brady-deflategate-announcement-internal-study/22275993/

57 posted on 01/24/2015 8:09:57 PM PST by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: RainMan
In fact, the last Seahawks player that got in trouble ... Brandon Browner, was benched then released by the Seahawks, and now plays for New England.

Oops. This entire issue has reached the lofty atmospheric levels of high comedy. Now, I'm not a cynical kind of guy, but the fact that this controversy has managed to place stories on the two Superbowl contenders on every screen, in every broadcast between last weekend and Superbowl weekend, is simply a happy coincidence for the NFL. And I'm Little Orphan Annie.

However, it's clear to me that cheating actually was taking place here, earnest disquisitions on gas physics notwithstanding. And this affair being a blot on the stainless reputation of America's high religion, football, I pronounce myself offended. Beheadings. That's what we need here. (Ululating).

58 posted on 01/24/2015 8:24:11 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SamAdams76

After Brady’s first TD the game will be stopped for 20 minutes while the football is inspected! This is getting to be ridiculous!


59 posted on 01/24/2015 9:53:46 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: edzo4

You are amusing.

The coach of the Patriots says they didn’t cheat, therefore you aver they didn’t cheat. Such faith.

But I agree that the Jets suck - and have since I first learned to like them!


60 posted on 01/25/2015 7:09:16 AM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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