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Deflategate fallout: NFL focusing on Patriots' locker-room attendant
Fox Sports ^ | 1/26/2015 | Jay Glazer

Posted on 01/26/2015 1:18:34 PM PST by mojito

Deflategate has taken another twist.

FOX Sports has learned that the NFL has zeroed in on a New England Patriots locker-room attendant in connection with the scandal of improperly inflated footballs used in the AFC championship game against Indianapolis.

The person of interest was already interviewed by the league. The NFL is trying to determine whether any wrongdoing by this individual occurred, sources tell FOX Sports.

There is surveillance video showing the attendant taking the footballs from the official's locker room into another room at Gillette Stadium before bringing them out to the field, sources tell FOX Sports.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxsports.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Sports; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: belacheat; deflategate; newenglandpatriots; nfl; rogergodell; superbowl; tombrady
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To: timestax

A cartoon is going around : the patriot drawing used in their end zone has been given an elongated nose .


61 posted on 01/26/2015 7:29:55 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: BluH2o

2010 is an interesting start time...since that was when Brady had a long string of no interceptions, and the team was all into keeping a string of no turnovers going.

It plays well into this:
http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2012/11/30/bill-belichick-and-the-sweet-science-of-the-turnover/

And RB BenJarvis Green Ellis who had a string of not fumbling not only with the Patriots, but all through college prior. And as though smart defenses don’t plot turnovers - like the Manning pick in the Colts-Saints Super Bowl...you could see it coming if you knew what to look for.

Of course the big key that it’s also cherry picking is that it is “fumbles lost”, not “fumbles”...which the Pats are only second best, even with all their efforts.


62 posted on 01/26/2015 7:36:32 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MMaschin

Does your “Engineer’s toolbox” have a formula for how much the football’s leather stretches when it gets soaking wet in the rain?


63 posted on 01/26/2015 7:42:43 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: timestax

There use to be an NFL player with the nickname “Big Hands”, I can’t remember who that was, I think he was a defensive lineman. Trivia? Anyone know that? Played a long time ago I believe, ‘60s, ‘70s, maybe AFL.


64 posted on 01/26/2015 8:17:47 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: randita

That would be one of the two parts: were the balls changed unnaturally after inspection and approval by the Refs; and can they find out who conducted the change.

The NFL has access to information we don’t, so perhaps they have evidence of an otherwise unexplainable change - not publicly available so far, even including rumors. If so, this could show means...or it could show the guy had to urinate and didn’t follow Good Practices.


65 posted on 01/26/2015 8:46:05 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Not sure what you are trying to say. If you go to the link I provided you will see that the chart is relative to normal air - that is NTP normal temperature and pressure. So yes, it is relational to normal atmospheric pressure.


66 posted on 01/26/2015 9:23:08 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: norwaypinesavage

Are you claiming that the leather casing of a football will stretch when it gets wet?


67 posted on 01/26/2015 9:25:10 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

The volume of the air in the ball would have dropped 2% for each 10 degree F drop.


Using that equation, (for which the same constant would work for V or P if the other is constant):

.96 (12.5 + 14.7) = 26.1

26.1-27.2 = -1.1, not 0.5.

.5 is the solution only if you don’t include the 1 atm base as changing too, which only would if your 12.5 was the absolute pressure, which only would be so if the area outside the ball were in a vacuum.


68 posted on 01/27/2015 12:36:50 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: mojito
People will simply not let this go away.

Football is of course an obsession for many of us but this story is almost as moronic as was the spy gate BS.

In ‘Spygate’ taking pictures in a stadium filled with thousands of people with cameras was somehow defined as cheating.

If that is not dumb enough, a new scandal had to be uncovered where the air pressure in game balls was supposedly recognized in the middle of a game. Upon the resolving of the air pressure problem, the ‘cheating’ team had greater success in that very game.

This entire story, both of which certainly appears to be an exercise in explaining the improbable results of a team that for decades was the league doormats until suddenly new ownership, a class A Coach, and a superlative Quarterback came together and disrupted the NFL parity formula.

The incessant drum beating against a consistently winning combination looks more like sour grapes than anything.

I would expect that at least on FR.com, excellence would be appreciated, respected, supported, and not so regularly reviled.

It is contrary to the values of free republic that I thought were typical, that the NewEngand franchise would be dissed so regularly because they just do well in competition.

69 posted on 01/27/2015 1:07:47 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: mojito

I’ve read most of the threads on FR on this and have heard stories on FNC. While it does seem a bit suspicious, I honestly don’t know what happened.

That said, I hope they lock up the balls for the Super Bowl after the refs approve them and no one has access to them until the beginning of the game.

Here’s an excerpt from the story below regarding Wilson’s making of the SB balls:

Far from deflate-gate, football factory prepares for Super Bowl
By Garrett Tenney

Published January 26, 2015

“The final touch, and one most sports fans are very familiar with now, is inflating each ball until it has 13-pounds of air pressure inside – right down the middle of the NFL-mandated range of 12.5-13.5 pounds of pressure.

“The balls leave here they have 13 pounds of air in them, and that’s our goal here to send out a quality football,” explains Wilson Factory Manager, Dan Reigle.

The football factory shipped out 104 game balls for the Super Bowl to the New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks the day after the championship game was decided.”

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2015/01/26/far-from-deflate-gate-football-factory-prepares-for-super-bowl/

GO SEAHAWKS!!!


70 posted on 01/27/2015 3:15:06 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: bicyclerepair

I think you’re right!


71 posted on 01/27/2015 4:16:07 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: MMaschin

I’m not claiming, I’m asking.


72 posted on 01/27/2015 4:42:04 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: mojito

Goodell spent the weekend of the AFC Championship at Robert Kraft’s house. Nothing to worry about Patriot fans. Daddy paid the bill.


73 posted on 01/27/2015 4:46:16 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: MMaschin
That means even a 20 degree drop in temperature would have resulted in a less than .5 (~0.495) PSI drop in the ball.

Another factor to consider. A football is not a fixed size vessel. It is a rubber bladder inside leather. There is an amount of elasticity that would help maintain pressure when the gas loses some volume do to cooling.

74 posted on 01/27/2015 4:54:39 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: kidd
How about an uncalibrated pressure gage?

About time someone mentioned that.....

I play a lot of volleyball and have a digital gauge which is probably considered the best at around $30........

While all the volleyballs I have say to inflate to between 4.3 - 4.6 PSI, I could inflate a ball to 4.3, retest it 3 more times and get readings of between 3.8 and maybe 4.5....

The bottom line is, they're not precise, they're only modestly accurate and they can't be calibrated.

75 posted on 01/27/2015 5:06:39 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: randita

Oh...and my understanding is they’ve had this tape a while. The “area on the way” is a bathroom.


76 posted on 01/27/2015 8:15:13 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

So the locker room attendant took the 12 footballs into the bathroom with him? Can’t wait to hear his explanation for that.

Do we know if the bathroom was a one person bathroom with a door lock on the inside?


77 posted on 01/27/2015 9:01:16 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: randita

What is being reported is that it is a one person bathroom with a toilet and sink, and a lock, and that he was in there less than 90 seconds, with two 12-ball bags of balls.

Most likely explanation to be given is that he had to pee and wouldn’t be able to for another two hours.


78 posted on 01/27/2015 10:47:45 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Seattle Conservative

There’s no literal home team, so the NFL provides the ball attendants for the Superbowl.


79 posted on 01/27/2015 10:50:13 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: mojito

He prolly only went in there to take a leak.


80 posted on 01/27/2015 11:11:42 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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