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OPINION: Sorry "Caitlin" Jenner... You're Still Not a Woman
LouderWithCrowder.com ^ | 01/01/2015 | Steven Crowder

Posted on 06/01/2015 12:47:32 PM PDT by StevenCrowder

This is a column from my site. There are videos included in the column, so if you want to keep supporting videos, please visit the homelink.

So it’s official. Bruce Jenner is now a “woman.” He calls himself Caitlyn.

Cue the social media, social justice warriors delivering the grandiose, unnecessary compliments. “Oh she’s so brave!” “We’re so proud of you!” “Caitlyn, you’re a hero!”

Listen, I don’t begrudge Bruce Jenner for wanting to be happy. Everyone wants to be happy. The problem is that with the recent, hyper-aggressive push to normalize transgenderism, we’ll no longer be able to discuss whether some decisions made in the pursuit of happiness are healthful. Because… hate speech.

Many people, including many in the gay community, think that transgenderism is a mental condition more effectively treated with psychiatry than surgery. I get where leftists are coming from; this person isn’t hurting anybody (aside from themselves), so what difference does it make? On the surface, it seems like a reasonable position to hold. One that quickly falls apart when you begin to examine it more closely.

Apotemnophilia is a fetish in which people wish to become an amputee. They find sexual satisfaction and ultimately, happiness, through the act of the removal of limbs or simulating the removal of limbs. There are websites, message boards and get-togethers devoted exclusively to the activity. As a general rule, society doesn’t consider this to be healthful. Some of us may accept it, ignore it and move on with our lives, but we don’t praise it or trot apotemnopheliacs out as heroes. And let’s be honest… most of us think it’s pretty damn weird.

Now, change that limb to a penis. If you don’t accept it, even worse, if you don’t praise it, you’re deemed hateful. The politically correct lobbyists of the day will take great care in avoiding the staggeringly high suicide rate of transgenders, they will ignore the medical reality that sex change operations and hormone replacement therapies come with a litany of very serious health problems, heck, they’ll ignore overall science.

If you choose not to do so, you will be deemed hateful. This is the playbook. Know it, learn it, expect it. Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner, will be their poster child.

Something that was discussed on this week’s podcast, and something that I find to be an incredibly interesting point from Milo Yiannopoulous, is that the entire leftist theory on which transgender acceptance is based, forces leftists into a rough juxtaposition to begin with.

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1469&v=V3uATqvcvG8

See, if it’s truly possible that a male body can be born with the wrong brain, or that a female body can be born with a male brain… it forces the left to concede that gender is not merely a product of societal construct, but biology. If, in order to avoid classifying transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, we’re required to recognize the inherent biological, scientifically measurable differences between genders… that creates incredible contradictions for feminism, gay rights progress and ultimately, yes, transgenderism.

Send your hate-tweets to @Scrowder and I’ll be sure to do very little about them.


TOPICS: Humor; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: brucejenner; caitlynjenner; selfpromotion; stevencrowder; stolenvideo; transgenderism
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To: Yaelle
Where is the perversion here?

You don't suppose he just wants to be a chick in order to pay more for haircuts and shoes, do you?

41 posted on 06/01/2015 1:27:12 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Yaelle
Right now in Western Civ 2015, the solution to this illness is to allow / encourage the person to try life as the gender of their brain.

Right now, Western Civ 2015 is rapidly sliding down the drain, and folks like you making excuses for perverts are pushing it along.

42 posted on 06/01/2015 1:28:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: bicyclerepair

photoshop involved on that cover? Didn’t think so.

It’s fraud pure and simple.


I have no idea. I am of the belief that magazines photoshop EVERYONE on the covers (except conservatives maybe?), so that equalizes it out.

People focusing on them photoshopping this particular cover are doing what we hate the liberals to do: being hypocritical.


43 posted on 06/01/2015 1:28:53 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Yaelle

Agreed. And they aren’t too kind to addicts either.

Long ago, I didn’t get out much and was once in the same camp


44 posted on 06/01/2015 1:29:19 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: StevenCrowder

This is just bad science, incorrect science.

No woman is born with a man’s brain. No man is born with a woman’s brain. Their genetics are XX for female, XY for male.

What they COULD be suffering from, is a female body who’s hormone levels are abnormal, and are either creating too much testosterone (for a woman) and too little testosterone/too much estrogen for a man.

Hormonal imbalances can be medically dealt with, and to la lesser extent, through diet as well. For women eating more soy and other estrogen-mimicking substances, and for men, avoiding soy and other estrogen-mimicking substances.


45 posted on 06/01/2015 1:34:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree that there is no need to celebrate. It’s ridiculous. It’s people overcompensating for their own discomfort with it all. At least FReepers are honestly uncomfortable, though many are just mocking.


46 posted on 06/01/2015 1:34:49 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: ColdOne

It doesn’t matter. Unless he can change a Y chromosome to an X chromosome he’s still a male of the species.


47 posted on 06/01/2015 1:35:34 PM PDT by WayneS
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To: NorthMountain

According to my Bible, gossiping is a far worse sin than sodomy. I’ll go with that. You guys rate sins on their yuck factor.


48 posted on 06/01/2015 1:36:08 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Yaelle

My concern is that the agenda of all this publicity is that we do owe such people society’s financial and other support. By extension, everyone with any kind of problem (and that includes most of us) deserve the same ... or we have battles between identity groups over who deserves what ... which is pretty much were we are right now, politically

I’m positing the slippery slope argument but I don’t think one can argue that we aren’t already a good way down the slippery slope with identity politics. The extreme publicity of Jenner’s case points to more of the same.


49 posted on 06/01/2015 1:36:24 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Yaelle
Bruce tried that for 60 years though.

Some people live their entire life with long term mental illnesses. This is no different from people who suffer from Body Integrity Identity disorder. There are people out there who literally feel as if they should have an arm or a leg amputated. Some get over it, some do not, but the mental problem of someone who thinks they are the wrong sex is no different from someone who thinks they should have an arm or leg missing.

That some form of treatment doesn't work does not mean someone is mentally healthy. It just means they haven't figured out or can't treat the cause yet.

50 posted on 06/01/2015 1:36:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Yaelle
Note my post 32. Would you condone amputation on demand for those suffering from apotemnophilia? A much rarer disease, but one with a strong sexual component. If not, what is the difference? I don't see how it can be denied that reassignment surgery is a form of mutilation rather than reconstruction. And it's been noted that many suffering from apotemnophilia and BIID (body integrity identity disorder) date the onset to childhood. I did note your last post's examples referred to hormonal therapy, if you're referring to therapy short of reassignment, then it's irrelevant.

I wish Bruce the best too, but the emerging long term research does suggest that increased happiness is not a certainty, though statisticly the risks for things like suicide, mortality and psychiatric morbidity are higher than the general population. Personally I think reassignment, like amputation in my examples, is at best a questionable form of therapy .

Another potential downside is the fact that widespread acceptance will require gender identity disorder to be dropped as a psychiatric diagnosis, presumably ending research into other therapies.

51 posted on 06/01/2015 1:37:04 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes)
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To: NorthMountain

Ad hominem. Never a great argument strategy.

Yes, western Civ is currently praising transsexuals. It may be part of the old commie / world domination agenda. I’m not causing any of it just because I am a conservative who chooses not to mock people with brain disorders.


52 posted on 06/01/2015 1:38:49 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: SJackson
Not a fetish, rather either a psychiatric diagnosis or thought by many to be the result of neurological damage. Also has sexual overtones.

A lot of mental illness has sexual overtones, including this one of thinking you ought to be female when you have XY chromosome pairs.

53 posted on 06/01/2015 1:38:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: varyouga

I’m sorry. I know that when Laz and other addicts chime in sometimes, there can be strong support. Some of those threads were so kind I got tears in my eyes. But mocking comes quick to the finger around here, even though many people claim to be religious. I’m not perfect with the Golden Rule but I try.


54 posted on 06/01/2015 1:40:45 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: DiogenesLamp

As I noted in my last post, research not seems to be suggesting BIID, which imo shares many characteristics with gender identity disorder including sexual issues, may well be a neurological rather than psychiatric disorder. Yet to suggest gender identity disorder might be psychiatric or neurological in nature is becoming politically incorrect. As will the research.


55 posted on 06/01/2015 1:41:46 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes)
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To: Yaelle
It’s people overcompensating for their own discomfort with it all.

"Overcompensating"? "Discomfort"?

You misunderstand. We object to both the perversion and to the associated dishonesty.

Mechanically and chemically mutilated men ARE NOT, and NEVER WILL BE women. Mechanically and chemically mutilated women ARE NOT, and NEVER WILL BE women. Claiming otherwise is peddling falsehood. People who do that are called "liars". Your hero Bruce can have his body mechanically mutilated, he can ingest synthetic estrogen, he can call himself Caitlin ... he cannot be a woman. He, and his supporters who claim that he is a woman are lying.

Yes, conservatives object to, and ridicule obvious public liars like Bruce Jenner. Idiots, perverts, and liars pander him and others like him. A foul, perverse, and unGodly culture celebrates him.

Where do you stand?

Choose ye this day ...

56 posted on 06/01/2015 1:43:01 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Yaelle
According to my Bible, gossiping is a far worse sin than sodomy. I’ll go with that. You guys rate sins on their yuck factor.

I don't remember any particular incidents in the bible where God rained down fire and brimstone on two cities filled with gossipers. I sort of regard the vehemence with which he burned everyone alive as sort of a measure of his tolerance on the subject.

57 posted on 06/01/2015 1:43:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Lorianne

I simply don’t believe we owe anyone from the government / tax payers much of anything. But I know what you mean, taxpayers still pay for abortions every day.

If there were a successful treatment, that worked toward contentment 80% of the time, maybe there would be some foundations and charities to help them. Gender reassignment only works as above about 50%. That is not great. Bruce is hoping to be in that better half.


58 posted on 06/01/2015 1:45:37 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: DiogenesLamp

We agree. There is no known decent treatment yet for people like this.


59 posted on 06/01/2015 1:46:33 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Yaelle
According to my Bible, gossiping is a far worse sin than sodomy.

Your bible apparently lacks a Book of Genesis ... or perhaps someone has excised Chapter 18 and 19 therefrom.

Fascinating.

Now ... if you find "gossip" so heinous that it is worse than Sodomy (the foulness of which cries out to Heaven) ... perhaps you should refrain from engaging in gossip.

60 posted on 06/01/2015 1:47:42 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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