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A Sketch of the Laws Relating to Slavery in the Several States of the United States of America
Library of Congress ^ | 1827 | George M. Stroud

Posted on 06/22/2015 4:15:39 PM PDT by Ray76

"The state of slavery in this country, so far as it can be ascertained from the laws of the several independent sovereignties which belong to our confederacy, is the subject of the following sheets. This comprises a particular examination of the laws of the states of Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Missouri." - From the preface

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1 posted on 06/22/2015 4:15:39 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76
At the time of the American Revolution, and indeed, during the ratification of the US Constitution, all the Northern states were also slave states...

But we never hear about how those vile slave states overthrew their lawful government in preference for one of their own. For some reason, a lot of people just don't notice the hypocrisy involved.

2 posted on 06/22/2015 4:18:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

How about the US flag flying over slave ships.
Flying over slavery.
Flying over the west when we went and killed Indians, raped them, robbed them, and took their land away from them.

The battle flag flew on battlefields and never flew as a Govt Confederacy flag and yet these people ignore all the facts due to their ignorance or hypocrisy.

Using this shooting to promote their agenda shows how disgusting and sick these twisted people are in the media and the Govt.


3 posted on 06/22/2015 4:22:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DiogenesLamp

From an American point of view, we were justified in declaring our independence from George III. From an American Constitutional point of view, the Confederate declarations of secession from the United States were unconstitutional.

There is no hypocrisy from the American point of view. Only if one places human slavery above the stated ideals of 1776 does this become an issue.


4 posted on 06/22/2015 4:32:28 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Ray76

Bfl


5 posted on 06/22/2015 4:32:29 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: iowamark

“From an American Constitutional point of view, the Confederate declarations of secession from the United States were unconstitutional.”

Show me where in the U.S. Constitution of 1861 that secession was unconstitutional, or illegal.


6 posted on 06/22/2015 4:55:40 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

The Founding Fathers and early US Presidents believed that and took it for granted. Senator Stephen Douglas in 1860: “I am in favor of executing in good faith every clause and provision of the Constitution and protecting every right under it - and then hanging every man who takes up arms against it!”


7 posted on 06/22/2015 5:02:25 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

You said secession was unconstitutional. Again, show me where in the U.S. Constitution of 1861 where it states secession is unconstitutional.


8 posted on 06/22/2015 5:28:20 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: iowamark
The Confederate Constitution codified slavery.
9 posted on 06/22/2015 5:37:26 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: ought-six
Article 1 section 9:’’ The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended , unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it’’. The South rebelled, violently to secede.
10 posted on 06/22/2015 5:43:37 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Ray76

Maryland is an interesting point of study for those who care to do the research...


11 posted on 06/22/2015 5:56:52 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: iowamark
From an American point of view, we were justified in declaring our independence from George III.

As we explained with this bit of text.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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From an American Constitutional point of view, the Confederate declarations of secession from the United States were unconstitutional.

Only if you don't comprehend the meaning of the above text taken from the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution acquired it's authority from the Declaration (our founding document) and not the other way around. The principles embedded in the Declaration override those of the US Constitution.

As the Declaration enshrined the principle that people had a right to break from England, then it most certainly enshrined the principle that people have a right to break from a far lesser established government.

There is no hypocrisy from the American point of view.

I just pointed it out.

Only if one places human slavery above the stated ideals of 1776 does this become an issue.

You mean as every single State did in 1776-1787? They were ALL slave states. Obviously they didn't intend for the Declaration to apply to slaves, else they would have freed them when they wrote it. Not even Thomas Jefferson did this.

The Hypocrisy is glaring.

12 posted on 06/22/2015 6:11:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

New Jersey had blacks who were freed only by the ratification of the 13th Amendment in Dec, 1865.


13 posted on 06/22/2015 10:34:13 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: Ray76

Guess we need to start repudiating Pres. Jefferson since he had a bunch of slaves and didn’t even free all of them - some of which were his children or close relatives - on his death.


14 posted on 06/23/2015 3:53:46 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: Ready4Freddy
New Jersey had blacks who were freed only by the ratification of the 13th Amendment in Dec, 1865.

A lot of people who laud the Union effort to thwart independence for the Southern States are completely unaware of the fact that they had a lot of slave states on their side too.

When the war started, Lincoln let it be known that abolishing slavery was not a goal of the war. When it became apparent that his side was going to win, they pulled the old "bait and switch."

15 posted on 06/23/2015 6:04:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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“[Union] had a lot of slave states on their side too.”

Five, iirc, not a small % of the Union states.

Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Kentucky, and Missouri.


16 posted on 06/23/2015 6:49:16 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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Five, iirc, not a small % of the Union states.

Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Kentucky, and Missouri.

As is probably obvious to anyone not fooled by revisionist history, one would think that if slavery was why they were fighting the war, they would have abolished it in their own states first.

Obviously slavery was not their motivation, but they keep claiming that it was because it sounds more noble than the truth.

17 posted on 06/23/2015 6:58:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Ready4Freddy
New Jersey had blacks who were freed only by the ratification of the 13th Amendment in Dec, 1865.

New Jersey didn't join in a war launched to protect the institution of slavery.

18 posted on 06/23/2015 7:05:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp
Obviously slavery was not their motivation, but they keep claiming that it was because it sounds more noble than the truth.

Preserving the United States was not noble?

19 posted on 06/23/2015 7:28:27 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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Preserving the United States was not noble?

To the same degree as preserving the United Kingdom.

My understanding is that the right of self determination was the founding principle of this nation. It seems that our government had forgotten this by the time of the Civil War.

20 posted on 06/23/2015 8:02:15 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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