The double fencing built here in the San Diego County has been very effective. The problem now is it has not been completed and the ILLEGAL hordes are crossing beyond where it ends.
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Posted on 07/03/2015 5:02:44 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Only 3/8ths of the southern border is fence-able.
Based on what please?
Thanks.
“Based on what please?”
The river.
The double fencing built here in the San Diego County has been very effective. The problem now is it has not been completed and the ILLEGAL hordes are crossing beyond where it ends.
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And they use those tunnels. Don’t forget the tunnels. Plus the areas away from population where they use ladders. Fences are only as good as they are supported by people, if not supported they’re just a nuisance that will be gotten around or broken through. Which isn’t saying we shouldn’t have it, simply pointing out that a fence is the BEGINNING not the fix.
Don’t forget Bobby Jindahl. He talked about it too!
Not sure a river will prevent a fence. Not even a bit.
Just have to place it far enough away, and reinforce the construction where necessary.
I don’t believe there is snow-melt flooding on the Rio Grande, though that could also be a consideration. Though it is just a challenge.
Start the shovels. Get started. :D
Here is what the border patrol says about fencing here in San Diego.
Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing.
The first fence, 10 feet high, is made of welded metal panels. The second fence, 15 feet high, consists of steel mesh, and the top is angled inward to make it harder to climb over. Finally, in high-traffic areas, there's also a smaller chain-link fence. In between the two main fences is 150 feet of "no man's land," an area that the Border Patrol sweeps with flood lights and trucks, and soon, surveillance cameras.
"Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work," Henry says. "It is highly effective."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928
I’m not sure I want a fence.
Fences keep things in and they keep them out.
We need to enforce the border seriously or we’re done.
I don’t think we could build a border today without a
military conflict.
Honestly, I think Trump is kind of a Scud missle thrower,
he says things that need to be said, but says themin such a
manner that you wonder if he thinks about where it’s going to
land.
Could it be that the reason Cruz has tagged on to Trumps antics is so
that he can hash out solutions while Trump takes the lightning?
Plenty of people right here on this thread think if only there was a fence it would all go away. There’s a lot of panacea thinking in this country. And you still need PEOPLE. All the motion sensors in the world don’t mean jack if there isn’t actually somebody to respond.
“Not sure a river will prevent a fence. Not even a bit.”
Which side of the river to you plan on building this fence.
On the American side.
Not trying to start a war over this. :D
Not sure I want to give the Rio Grande to Mexico or cut off thousand of people from their only water source.
I think there are ways to maintain our control out to half of the river’s width, and those should be stringently adhered to.
I’m not advocating in any way relinquishing even one inch of US territory to Mexico. At all.
But I think water, and control of access, both are considered in the same subject as where to build a fence, and what sort of fence to build.
All I know is that California just because a majority-Latino state.
Texas is importing immigrants rapidly, and will likely as trends go now, be next. Maybe 5-10 years.
This is just irresponsible.
America needs borders.
I note there is going to be a four and one-half mile long, eight foot high chain-link fence erected in Philadelphia to help in crowd control for the Pope’s upcoming visit in September - haven’t heard a word of “it can’t be done” about it yet.....
That is definitely not the case. They will always find a way. Even the best case scenario we have here has cut down ILLEGAL crossings 95%. That's considerable, but that still leaves 5%. I have been on the freeway in South Bay and seen hordes of ILLEGALs as they rushed the border at once. No fencing can stop that. They'll run through traffic, cross lanes leaping over cars that have stopped to avoid them. They'll do what they have to do to get away. There's always a way.
The tunnel's aren't an issue as far as ILLEGALs go. Those are usually for drug smuggling. And w/o the fencing they just drive the drugs across. WHy not erect the fencing and make them dig the tunnels?
The fencing has made my home safer. I live incredibly close to the US/Mexico border. There was a time when ILLEGALS crossed through my property regularly. They picked fruit from my trees. They filled their water jugs with my hose, broke into my garage and other buildings, tried to break into and hotwire my vehicles and even tried to steal my elderly neighbor's car. Fortunately she was armed and defended herself. That all ended with the erection of the new fencing. So obviously I am a big proponent of fencing. I know it works as I have seen its benefits first hand.
1) Why George W. Bush didn't build the wall?
2) Why so-called conservatives continued, and continue, to support (deify?) him?
Sorry I think I misstated.
California did not become a majority-Latino state.
But Latinos, just became California’s largest racial component.
Everyone is a minority in CA. But Latinos are the biggest share, at least according to a recent report I read.
The trick is to convince him it’s to keep Americans in. Bet he builds it then.
Give an illegal a 1/2 acre and an AR right on the border. Tell him it is his if he doesn’t let anyone through. Rinse and repeat the length.
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