Posted on 07/09/2015 3:18:58 AM PDT by cotton1706
This is the only place you will see such a headline, for the democrats' racist history is to be covered up.
So you are in favor of trashing the CBF. Great. The CBF is not a symbol of the Democrat Party you idiot.
cotton1776 is from “New England”. Be advised.
Under current U.S. Federal Code, Confederate Veterans are equivalent to Union Veterans.
U.S. Code Title 38 – Veterans’ Benefits, Part II – General Benefits, Chapter 15 – Pension for Non-Service-Connected Disability or Death or for Service, Subchapter I – General, § 1501. Definitions: (3) The term “Civil War veteran” includes a person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War, and the term “active military or naval service” includes active service in those forces.
Would the PC crowd want to take down a symbol of their beloved Democrat Party?
Countless brave Confederate troops, who died to keep the Federal colossus in check, are spinning in their graves.
Meanwhile, Obama and his stooges nationwide are smiling at the contempt shown by the American people toward the American system of checks and balances and the unprecedented growth of Federal powers seized by Washington.
Jack Hammer
the flag may not represent slavery, it does represent rebellion against federal tyranny (ie: the north).
it may not be a current symbol of the democrat party, but it did spring forth from the dems during the civil war.
the same dems that defended slavery.
the same dems that started the kkk.
the same dems that fought tooth and nail to stop the civil rights movement.
The Sons of the Union Veterans of the Civil War support displaying the confederate battle flag and even take part in placing it on the graves of confederate soldiers.
So I ask you if it represents the Democratic Party why would the PC crowd wan t it remove from the collective memory? Why?
I’m making a media point. The point of this whole brouhaha is to whitewash democrats past and portray republicans as racists for political/election purposes.
In the liberal mind those who would remove the Confederate flag would be heroes, but republicans can NEVER be portrayed as heroes. So there would never be such a headline from the liberal press.
I am sure Barack looks at the Stars and Stripes and sees a history of white oppression and American hegemony and would love to replace it with something else. In a similar vein you see the CBF as only representing slavery and Jim crow, It was stolen for those purposes. You took the bait.
“In the liberal mind those who would remove the Confederate flag would be heroes, but republicans can NEVER be portrayed as heroes. So there would never be such a headline from the liberal press.”
I’m not exactly sure what your point is. At the moment there are headlines saying that Republicans in the south are taking down the flag.
The left sees this as a no risk win. Th flag is gone, southerners are POd, the Dems got the Repubs to do the dirty work.
If there’s a political win in there for Rebs. I don’t see it.
And you're proud of that?
For shame.
So am I.
I assume some are decent people.
I’m not defending the overall premise of the OP title nor against it, but there is some consideration of it that may be useful, at least for one particular state - Georgia.
I remember Governor Roy Barnes and his drive to change Georgia’s State flag that included a CBF as part of it. I remember telling my mother about how I didn’t like it because of tradition, etc.. She said, “Well, that flag was adopted in 1955 - I grew up under a different one.”
That prompted me to do some research on it. Nuts and bolts, the CBF flag was designed by the Democrat Party Chairman (Bell) in 1955 and it was adopted by the Democrat controlled legislature and became official in 1956. The official Georgia Senate Research Office report on the flags of Georgia is here:
http://www.senate.ga.gov/sro/Documents/StudyCommRpts/00StateFlag.pdf
In it, the study reports that it was in response to desegregation efforts.
In 2002 I believe, Barnes (Democrat) thought he could get some brown nose points and he began a campaign to change the flag again. He was NOT re-elected. In 2002 Barnes was defeated by Republican Sonny Perdue who backtracked on a promise not to change it and offered up a statewide referendum in 2004 with option flags for voters which passed. Curiously, the 1956 CBF was NOT a choice. Perdue won re-election, but he earned the enmity of a lot of Georgia heritage groups because of it.
It’s not the same all over this country, and the reasons for its use isn’t always clear cut. You have to look at the proponents, what groups or ideologies they belong to, and a number of other factors. In the case of the 1956 Georgia flag, Democrats put it up, and Republicans took it down (with some finagling on the options voters were offered). I believe had Georgians been given the 1956 flag as an option their RINO legislators chose to omit, they would have voted to retain it. But I don’t think it would have been for the same reason that the 1955 Democrat Legislature designed and adopted it.
“The left sees this as a no risk win. Th flag is gone, southerners are POd, the Dems got the Repubs to do the dirty work.
If there’s a political win in there for Rebs. I don’t see it.”
That is precisely my point. The republicans reacted as they always do, by kowtowing.
“And you’re proud of that?”
No, I’m not. The president says the Confederate Flag belongs in a museum, yet it was just taken down from a war memorial, essentially an outdoor museum. These events did happen, and the men who furled that flag with tears in their eyes were not weeping because they “wouldn’t get to be racists anymore” (for that is the liberal view). They were weeping because their country was no more, what they fought for was no more. And then their symbol was absconded.
The Confederate flag could easily rise again as an important symbol for slavery...a new slavery...a symbol of the huge loss of individual freedoms we are all experiencing daily. That the Confederate flag is already seen as a symbol for slavery by the people , and now having it banned, is a perfect storm for this as a new symbol for these times. It is coming to represent the new nanny state slavery ... PC, invasive personal "rules", foods we cannot eat, the taking over of mud puddles in our back yards, banning coal for "global warming" (a hoax)..... the list is long and growing longer each day. I have purchased a Confederate flag ... and when SC takes it down from the Confederate Memorials (the only place it is flying on government land) that will be the signal for me to begin flying the flag protesting my own personal Neo-slavery. Yes I live in SC, but I am from Indiana ... so this isn't a "southern" thing. This flag, showing up in the north would be even more symbolic. I do believe this symbol for slavery will rise again, protesting a kind of slavery equally as dangerous with no Lincoln in the wings to set us free. And once again, history is proving the liberals and Democrats are the slave masters as they have always been throughout history.
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