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A new book, but an old conspiracy theory: Who really wrote "To Kill a Mockingbird"
CNBC ^ | 02/03/2015

Posted on 07/14/2015 1:32:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 07/14/2015 1:34:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A second Harper Lee book is coming out and is likely to be a wild commercial success. But let's be honest

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: harperlee; liberalagenda; mockingbird; racistbunk; tkam; trumancapote
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To: miss marmelstein
By every account, Lee's editors were very hands-on. She may have written it, but she was getting a lot of notes on shaping the material.

As for the notion that Capote wrote TKAM, it's absurd. The man's ego wouldn't have allowed him to sit back while Lee was credited with writing a book far more successful than anything he ever did.

21 posted on 07/14/2015 2:00:14 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: tanknetter

“Keep in mind that TKAM was also severely edited in it’s transition from
Watchman.”

My impression is that is a mistaken impression many have and the two are separate works.

” So how much of the editors writing style got embedded?”

Editing would be an issue in the software analysis.


22 posted on 07/14/2015 2:01:41 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: miss marmelstein

Good example.

I agree with you about editors not writing.


23 posted on 07/14/2015 2:03:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: squarebarb

I agree. Mein Kamph was a best seller too.


24 posted on 07/14/2015 2:04:51 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Yes, of course, editors can be hands on. They must have known as soon as they got the manuscript that they had gold in their hands. That doesn’t diminish her as a writer. F. Scott Fitzgerald was an example of someone who needed very little editing - same with Shirley Jackson As a Thomas Wolfe fan, I know how on top of it Max Perkins was. His editing made Wolfe’s work sing. But he did not write it!


25 posted on 07/14/2015 2:06:01 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Truman Capote wrote “Breakfast At Tiffany’s” which is far, far away from the Deep South...and entirely different prose from “To Kill A Mockingbird” which was written by Harper Lee.

Harper Lee *did* help Capote write “In Cold Blood” as well as many of his movie scripts, though.

Just not the other way around. Capote didn’t help her with “Go Set A Watchman” or “To Kill a Mockingbird.”


26 posted on 07/14/2015 2:06:02 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Steely Tom
Henry Cabot Lodge.

??????

Is that some kind of Operation Mockingbird/CIA/Kennedy Assassination reference?

I see your HCL II reference and raise you Get Smart's "Tequila Mockingbird" episode.


27 posted on 07/14/2015 2:07:02 PM PDT by x
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To: dangus
The Harper Lee who wrote “To Kill a Mockingbird” is the same person as the Harper Lee who wrote its sequel, but that person has changed much over the years.

Both books were written within a short time of each other.

The recently released book was actually written first.

28 posted on 07/14/2015 2:07:18 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: ifinnegan
The original manuscript Lee submitted was "Watchman." But with the editor's guidance, it was turned into TKAM.
Like many unpublished authors, Ms. Lee was unsure of her talents. “I was a first-time writer, so I did as I was told,” Ms. Lee said in a statement this year about the evolution from “Watchman” to “Mockingbird.”

Ms. Hohoff offers a more detailed characterization of the process in the Lippincott corporate history: “After a couple of false starts, the story-line, interplay of characters, and fall of emphasis grew clearer, and with each revision — there were many minor changes as the story grew in strength and in her own vision of it — the true stature of the novel became evident.” (In 1978, Lippincott was acquired by Harper & Row, which became HarperCollins, publisher of “Watchman.”)

There appeared to be a natural give and take between author and editor. “When she disagreed with a suggestion, we talked it out, sometimes for hours,” Ms. Hohoff wrote. “And sometimes she came around to my way of thinking, sometimes I to hers, sometimes the discussion would open up an entirely new line of country.”

The Invisible Hand Behind Harper Lee’s ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’


29 posted on 07/14/2015 2:07:59 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: SeekAndFind
One theory was that Truman Capote wrote To Kill a Mockingbird and Harper Lee wrote In Cold Blood.

I doubt it, but if the movies were any indication, she was a lot more up on the details of the murders and better suited to be a crime writer than he was.

In the movies Philip Seymour Hoffman or Toby Jones seemed more concerned with freaking out the Kansas locals than with getting the facts straight.

Harper Lee probably left some kind of mark on Blood and it wouldn't be surprising if Capote influenced Mockingbird and given Lee notes.

30 posted on 07/14/2015 2:08:12 PM PDT by x
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To: KarlInOhio

I agree 100%.

That little faggot did NOT write To Kill a Mockingbird.


31 posted on 07/14/2015 2:08:39 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t remember the details now, but Shakespeare did plagiarize Marlowe. I wrote a term paper on it over fifty years ago and at the time it took some digging, but the proof was there. Don’t get me wrong, I love Shakespeare and Marlowe as well. Who knows how great he could have been.


32 posted on 07/14/2015 2:10:31 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: miss marmelstein

I agree 100%.

I was also about 12 the first time I read it.


33 posted on 07/14/2015 2:11:50 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Southack

I agree. But Truman’s early claim to fame was his southern writing - A Christmas Memory, The Grass Harp, etc.

Does anyone remember he wrote the beautiful lyric to the gorgeous song “A Sleepin’ Bee”? And for those who love “true crime” like In Cold Blood, please, please buy “Handcarved Coffins.”


34 posted on 07/14/2015 2:13:49 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: KarlInOhio
"Could a little drama queen like Capote have kept silent while someone else won awards to his ghostwriting? Not for a single day, much less decades."

Yeah too true. Now did he kibitz and/or maybe help with suggestions/edits like any good "first reader" does? I would be surprised to find out he didn't.

35 posted on 07/14/2015 2:14:18 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: WayneS

What a wonderful read for a young person! It perfectly reflects the idealism of youth followed by the awful disillusionment. Poor Jem who thinks Tom will be acquitted!


36 posted on 07/14/2015 2:15:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thanks.

I still think they were separate works. In other words a new book was written based on parts, the flashbacks, while working with the editor and suggestions.

If TKAM were an edited version of the Watchman book, the latter couldn’t be published because it would contain large chunks of TKAM.


37 posted on 07/14/2015 2:18:03 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: The Final Harvest
In other words, she published the politically correct book rather than the honest book.

And walked away from the truth.

38 posted on 07/14/2015 2:18:45 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: SeekAndFind

J. D. Salinger

39 posted on 07/14/2015 2:21:28 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

How is he relevant to this debate?


40 posted on 07/14/2015 2:23:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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