I already knew their ecological leanings, however this fills in many missing parallels to today. I'll add it to The Pink Swastika and Nazi Medicine.
When did the camel get it's nose in the tent?
Posted on 07/15/2015 9:17:16 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
The eleven authors of How Green Were the Nazis? were painfully aware that contemporary studies of German conservatism’s evolution into Nazism routinely highlight the naturalistic and ecological underpinnings of this political current. An appeal to the authority of ecology for political guidance is widely acknowledged as being basic to Nazism. A need to refute this scholarly consensus motivated the writing of How Green Were the Nazis? …but alas, in vain. The eleven clods (environmentalists all) formed a circular firing squad around their target. They shot holes through one another’s arguments then fled the scene leaving behind piles of good ammunition. What follows is a critical condensation of How Green Were the Nazis?
(Excerpt) Read more at ecofascism.com ...
Google ‘Wandervogel’
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The spouse will not be thrilled to read it. Recycle,recycle, etc.
The veritable bible of the Hitler Youth was Nietzsche’s earthy existentialist book called, “Thus Spake Zarathustra.” The Hitler Youth was built upon the volkisch youth movement of the early 1900’s called the wandervogel. The wandervogel movement began in 1894. It was one of the first environmentally conscious movements in Germany. The term wandervogel itself literally means “free wandering bird.” Much of the early German green movement before World War I emphasized birds and bird-watching. The wandervogel movement provided opportunities for German youth to explore the great outdoors with a spirit of adventure and rugged self-discipline ...
Like Hillary and Bill- who, without a doubt are German Socialists nee- Marxists. Top to bottom control of everything and everyone.
Just reading about Darre— the Reich’s Peasant Leader- who had as such, control over ALL agricultural production and producers— that is to say... the farmers.
Does this not sound.... familiar? Control by the EPA over all water sources, by regulation. By fiat.
History doesn’t repeat- it rhymes.
Burning humans = toxic air. Burying too many humans in the soil = toxic land and water. Though I will give them some credit for recycling my family’s belongings and even gold teeth when they “exterminated” them. Win the Future, what kind of study is this?
Burning 20 million Jews leaves one hell of a carbon footprint.
Just sayin’.
The Nazis were never conservative. They were hopey changey socialists.
In July 1942, Himmler visited Auschwitz. He demanded all those murdered and buried in mass graves to be exhumed and burned. Part of the reason why Himmler wanted to burn up the corpses was not only because of the intolerable stench that permeated the summer air throughout the whole area, but also because SS Nazi administrators “of nearby fish farms complained that the presence of poisonous contaminants in the ground water was causing the fish in their ponds to die off.” The SS at Auschwitz was far more concerned about fish die offs than they were over murdering innumerable Jewish victims along with many Polish political prisoners. Himmler, no doubt, would have also wanted to burn up his SS crimes in smoke, but in July 1942, this may not have been as big of concern as it may have become later when the Nazis began to realize they were going to lose the war.
When Auschwitz crematoriums were burning Jewish victims at a rapid pace in 1943, the camp building department wrote to the Prussian Institute for Water, Soil, and Air Hygiene asking for an expert opinion on air pollution problems and questions with regard to the “construction of a heating plant.” The Prussian air quality hygiene institute, in turn, requested a map from Auschwitz that was to show the surroundings of the projected plant within a five kilometer radius. At this juncture, the letter exchange apparently came to an abrupt end because the heating plant was most likely a crematorium that would have exposed the Auschwitz death camp itself. Regardless, the gray smoke of Auschwitz dirtied the skies and environs with sooty human ashes. While mass burials generated water pollution problems for Nazi fish farms that SS administrators earlier complained about in 1942, the answer to burn the corpses up in crematorium ‘heating plants’ did not alleviate the environmental concerns of those living in the Auschwitz vicinity.
William Kay’s definition of conservative is based upon the European right/left distinction, which is far different in America. Conservative means nothing until you define what it is you are trying to conserve. European/German environmentalism was born with the landed aristocrats who opposed free market capitalism in order to keep their fortunes and power and place. Such a European aristocracy, the “right” of Europe, was sent packing out of the country after the Revolutionary War in America. America was originally based on classical liberalism, which has since been hijacked by the socialist Left after the rise of Marx and company in the 1800’s.
See responses to Yaelle.
Not surprisingly, many of the SS death camp commandants and officers were ‘euthanasia’ experts. Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Belzec death camps, thanks to their gargantuan ‘euthanasia’ practices, became colossal recycling centers where all of the victims belongings that was carried on the trains to its final destination, was not only confiscated and stolen, but salvaged as well. In fact, human hair shaved from euthanized victims was later recycled and sown into Nazi army uniforms to help keep the Germans warm on the battle front. Hair was also recycled to help seal German submarines. More sickening still, there is a pair of gloves made of human skin on display in the World War II museum in Kiev. All of the robbed jewelry, gold rings, bracelets, and teeth, were of course a financial bonanza, but nothing was to be wasted. The Nazi recycling fetish went so far so as to include the attempt to generate gas from inmate’s feces in sludge experiments that apparently claimed thousands of lives. Even the grease of human fat that oozed from the piles of corpses when they were burned was sometimes thrown back into the hellish fires to stoke the flames even more. In Auschwitz, the human ashes were placed in a stormwater mill pond and later recycled as fertilizer. On September 4, 1943, regimental order 37 was handed down from the German commander of Police Battalion 101 in Lublin, Poland demanding his men clean up their litter and recycle whatever can be re-used. He had become aware that “large quantities of wrapping material, mineral water, and other bottles lie about.” He then threatened punishment upon those who wasted any re-usable materials, “It is irresponsible that in the present raw material and supply conditions, the responsible persons do not endeavor to make immediate renewed use of the empty containers and the wrapping material.” Situated in eastern Poland, Lublin was the command center of Operation Reinhard where the notorious death camps of Belzec, Sobibor, Majdanek, and Treblinka all received their directives. At these death camps, just like Auschwitz, recycling and murderous euthanasia practices went hand in hand.
The commadant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess would recover from the horror of the holocaust by finding solace in nature, “If I was deeply affected by some incident, I found it impossible to go back to my home and my family. I would mount my horse and ride, until I had chased the terrible picture away. Often at night, I would walk through the stables and seek relief among my beloved animals.” This is precisely how the authentic natural men of Nazi Germany walked down the barbaric road to Auschwitz (Robert Pois - National Socialism and the Religion of Nature). Hoess’s nature loving tendencies is far more revealing than most scholars would care to admit. While Jews went up in sacrificial smoke in the chimneys of Auschwitz, Hoess said his family lived “a free and untrammeled life. My wife’s garden was a paradise of flowers.” Hoess was more concerned about untreated stormwater discharging directly into the nearby Sola River from the camp than he was over the incredible slaughterhouse plans that Himmler was foisting upon him, “As a camp commandant I saw all my plans for making Auschwitz a clean and healthy place begin to dwindle.” The cunning of nature was indeed an escape route from moral responsibility and culpability. Nature by itself does not judge a man. It is therefore not surprising that Hoess found relief among his animals. As the Nazis understood things, “the person who lives in harmony with, or better, embodies the laws of nature, is authentic and necessarily, all of his actions must be as well (Robert Pois).”
Good gosh, I can barely read your post, too horrible. Here in LA at the Museum of Tolerance there are items made from Torah parchments. I believe there are plenty of things at the Holocaust Museum in DC as well.
Judaism says that every human has both urges within him/her. The urge to do what is wrong and the urge to do what is right. The Nazis only followed the one. Like ISIS. Man’s potential for inhumanity is as infinite as his potential for good.
Thank you. I post similar comments, but people seem utterly unable to comprehend that American conservatism has essentially nothing to do with the traditional European Right.
Thank you. I post similar comments, but people seem utterly unable to comprehend that American conservatism has essentially nothing to do with the traditional European Right.17 posted on July 15, 2015 at 8:14:52 PM EDT by Sherman Logan
is an excellent dissertation on American conservatism. Evans pointed out that the theme of Russian (for instance, or German) conservatism would not be freedom.
- The Theme Is Freedom:
- Religion, Politics, and the American Tradition
by M. Stanton Evans.
I knew someone would answer me and say conservatism in Germany wasn't the same as conservatism in America.
I stand by what I said, Hitler believed in a new man, in a Theosophist scheme of evolution, and he believed he and his party could bring that new man through their national socialism. Obama's doing the same thing, trying to rid America of bitter-clingers, and bring in his brand of Muslim socialism. Hitler and Obama, both hopey-changeys.
Well no shiite! As I said in my previous post, just because Germany under Bismarck and America under Reagan are two different things doesn't mean Obama and Hitler did not have the same goals of change.
You guys take yourselves way too seriously.
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