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New computer model says human emissions can ‘render Earth ice free’
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | September 24, 2015 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 09/25/2015 10:52:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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From the “department of global roasting” and the UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FAIRBANKS, where great ideas like this one are formed at Halloween parties, (yes really, see PR) comes this claim:

UAF model used to estimate Antarctic ice sheet melting

To see how burning up the Earth’s available fossil fuels might affect the Antarctic ice sheet, scientists turned to a computer program developed at the University of Alaska Fairbanks Geophysical Institute. The ice would disappear, they found, and that conclusion is making headlines across the world.

UAF’s Parallel Ice Sheet Model “was the perfect tool to find out whether human emissions are sufficient to render Earth ice free — and unfortunately it turns out that they are,” said Anders Levermann, a researcher at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. Levermann is an author of a paper recently published in the journal Science Advances.

He and the paper’s other authors figured out that burning all available fossil fuels would release about 10,000 gigatons of carbon into the atmosphere, which could possibly raise the average temperature of the planet by 20 degrees Fahrenheit. One gigaton is one billion tons. More carbon dioxide in the atmosphere raises temperatures because the greenhouse gas traps infrared radiation from sunlight striking the Earth.

The computer program shows that the increased temperatures would melt the Antarctic ice sheet, which is bigger than the United States, has an average thickness of 6,200 feet and contains more than 50 percent of the world’s fresh water. More than half the melting could occur during the first 1,000 years, although the entire study spans 10,000 years. PISM also shows that the melting would push sea levels up by more than 160 feet. Coastlines would retreat, forcing people in places like New York City, London and Paris to move inland.

“The future evolution of the global sea level is mainly determined by the melting of the big ice sheets on Greenland and Antarctica,” Levermann said. “If we want to properly protect our cities, we need to know how these ice sheets evolve. Models like PISM are the only chance we have to understand future sea-level rise.”

Andy Aschwanden, a UAF glaciologist who helped develop PISM, said he uses the computer program to study how climate change could affect Greenland’s ice sheet. He said that more than 50 studies have used PISM, including a soon-to-be-published paper that investigates the future of Alaska’s Juneau Icefield.

“Models are testbeds for all sorts of questions, and PISM is what we call a numerical model.” said Aschwanden. “We take our best understanding of the physical processes of the real world, in this case ice sheets, and frame that in the language of mathematics. Then we teach the computer how to come up with solutions to ‘what if’ questions about the processes that this model represents. We did a lot of work under the hood to make this model work.”

Ed Bueler, a UAF associate professor of mathematics, and GI computer programmer Constantine Khroulev, did much of that work. They built the engine of this model from new mathematical equations. Bueler said PISM is designed to solve what-if scenarios for different-sized ice sheets and glaciers over a time period that extends 100,000 years into the future and the past. It considers such factors as ice thickness and temperature, the weight of the ice and how fast the ice flows as gravity slowly pulls it downhill “like pouring honey onto a pancake.”

“The equations are a way to say precisely how the parts of an ice sheet work and how each of these pieces is connected to all the others,” said Bueler. “Once you have the equations, you can make predictions.”

Most programs that handle such a wide range of scenarios over a large time span rely on mathematics so complex that it may take computers years or decades just to answer one problem. Bueler said PISM is complex enough to be accurate but efficient enough to deliver answers in a timely manner to scientists.

PISM also uses the GI’s high-performance computers to get more accurate answers to the wide variety of scenarios. These computers can outperform an average personal computer in processing calculations.

The PISM team posts the computer program and its updates on the Internet so that scientists can use it freely and provide feedback on the program. Levermann learned about the program after one of his graduate students found it on the Internet and showed it to him in 2008.

“Half a year later, I was flying to Fairbanks to discuss the model with Ed,” said Levermann. “That was my first Halloween party in the U.S. In the two following weeks, my two then-Ph.D.-students, Ricarda Winkelmann and Maria Martin, visited Ed, and he explained the model. That started a wonderful long-term collaboration.”

Winkelmann went on to be the lead author on the recent paper published in Science Advances.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; epa; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I say, bring it.

Agriculture in vast areas of Canada are opened up.

Alaska is tamed.

Antarctica becomes a viable destination.


21 posted on 09/25/2015 11:08:11 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh nooooooooah .... we’re all going to die!


22 posted on 09/25/2015 11:10:03 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BUT, BUT, BUT.....no iced tea ?


23 posted on 09/25/2015 11:10:10 AM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In years, or eons, gone past, when dinosaurs ruled the earth, there were tropical swamps in Northern Canada. QUESTION - What kind of cars were the dinosaurs driving and did they use Freon 12?


24 posted on 09/25/2015 11:16:28 AM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: chiller
Oh No, I must have Ice Tea here in HOT Los Angeles.
25 posted on 09/25/2015 11:17:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This human’s emissions can render a wife-free room...


26 posted on 09/25/2015 11:17:48 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a new computer model that shows that unless everyone starts driving SUV’s the entire earth will ice over in a new ice age!

lol


27 posted on 09/25/2015 11:18:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

1) how many decades would it take to burn all of those fossil fuels?

2) Do they set all of the forests, mines, oil wells that now exist on fire to do it?

3) What sort of idiot would actually do that, except for some environmental extremist who wants to destroy the world to save it?


28 posted on 09/25/2015 11:20:19 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I once had a computer model where I could make my own city and then destroy it with all kinds of way cool disasters like tornados and earthquakes.

Cool game computer model.

29 posted on 09/25/2015 11:20:53 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


30 posted on 09/25/2015 11:26:56 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: cicero2k
Northwest Passage, longer growing seasons, increased biodiversity at all latitudes, wine industries begin in Britain, Ireland, and Scandinavia, Siberia becomes a bread basket, Canada even more so, Greenland becomes green and habitable again, just as it was along its coasts for a brief spell during Viking times.

Asking anyone who believes in the AGW nonsense what they think the ideal planetary temperature is, and more puzzling on what they base that opinion, should shut them up and make them think. Unfortunately, they have had that ability drilled out by the Ministry of Truth and their only response is sputtering rage. Even more unfortunately these computer models are utter horse s#!+ so nothing in the first paragraph is at all likely to occur within our lifetimes.

31 posted on 09/25/2015 11:30:04 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Skooz
Here is the first assumption, “ He and the paper’s other authors figured out that burning all available fossil fuels would release about 10,000 gigatons of carbon into the atmosphere, which could possibly raise the average temperature of the planet by 20 degrees Fahrenheit.

First you had to burn all mot some all fossil furls. That is some big BBQ partner. And with all that burning the temperature would rise 20 degrees.

When is the burning and when will this happen?

Junk science.

32 posted on 09/25/2015 11:32:02 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He and the paper’s other authors figured out that burning all available fossil fuels would release about 10,000 gigatons of carbon into the atmosphere ...

I mean really. This is science? No, it's Scare Tactics.

33 posted on 09/25/2015 11:32:20 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The computer program shows that the increased temperatures would melt the Antarctic ice sheet, which is bigger than the United States, has an average thickness of 6,200 feet and contains more than 50 percent of the world’s fresh water. More than half the melting could occur during the first 1,000 years, although the entire study spans 10,000 years. PISM also shows that the melting would push sea levels up by more than 160 feet. Coastlines would retreat, forcing people in places like New York City, London and Paris to move inland.

Even if true, which it is not, who knows if mankind will even have a New York or Paris in 10,000 years?

34 posted on 09/25/2015 11:37:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag necessary?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And in other “news”, Unicorns can fly...


35 posted on 09/25/2015 11:44:28 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe if the idiots would shut up there would be fewer harmful emissions.


36 posted on 09/25/2015 11:47:07 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Jack Hammer

***Cow emissions are even worse.***

But the same amount of Bison emissions is A-OK!


37 posted on 09/25/2015 11:48:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ed Bueler, a UAF associate professor of mathematics, and GI computer programmer Constantine Khroulev, did much of that work.

Ed Bueler's day off.

38 posted on 09/25/2015 11:48:20 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Potsdam huh?

Used to be under a slab of ice a mile thick or more I seem to recall..

Have you adopted a starving polar bear today?

The Clinton Ice Age ? Melting down before our very eyes.


39 posted on 09/25/2015 11:49:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

New computer model same as old computer model

Put garbage in in order to get the propaganda garbage out we want


40 posted on 09/25/2015 11:49:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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