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[August 8, 1967] Who Are the Hippies?
National Review From the NR archives ^ | August 8, 1967 | WILL HERBERG

Posted on 09/26/2015 6:14:45 AM PDT by dontreadthis

he hippie movement, if indeed it can be called a movement, confronts the curious observer as a strange paradox. On the One hand, it is generally held to be part of the New Left, itself a vague conglomerate of youthful and not so youthful malcontents, pronouncing the most frightful imprecations upon our society and culture, and threatening the most ferocious assaults upon things as they are. On the other hand, these hippies appear to be so harmless, so peaceful, so utterly absorbed in love and bongo. Where do they fit into the picture of the New Left? Who are the hippies, what are they? Most emphatically, they are not to be identified with the old-line beatniks, with whom they may have some tenuous historical connection. They do not have the truculence, the menacing air, the ideological ferocity of the old-line beatnik; they do not congregate in foul dens in the slums. They are the “gentle people,” sun worshipers, love-mystics. No, they are not beatniks; but what are they?

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To: dontreadthis
Hippies go back to at least 1826 when British indstrialist, Robert Owen, started the first commune in the USA (New Harmony, Indiana). Back then hippies were called 'Owenites.'

From the wiki about Robert Owen

Community experiments in America (1825)

In 1825, such an experiment was attempted under the direction of his disciple, Abram Combe, at Orbiston, Scotland near Glasgow; and the next year Owen himself began another at New Harmony, Indiana, US, sold to him by George Rapp. After a trial of about two years, both projects failed. Neither project was a proper experiment; their members were motley, mixing many worthy people of the highest aims with vagrants, adventurers, and crotchety, wrongheaded enthusiasts, or in the words of Owen's son "a heterogeneous collection of radicals, enthusiastic devotees to principle, honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers thrown in."

A perfect description of hippies from a 19th century perspective!

Latitudinarian (From Merriam's dictionary) - not insisting on strict conformity to a particular doctrine or standard : tolerant; specifically : tolerant of variations in religious opinion or doctrine.

From Wiki: It was initially a pejorative term applied to a group of 17th-century English theologians who believed in conforming to official Church of England practices but who felt that matters of doctrine, liturgical practice, and ecclesiastical organization were of relatively little importance.

Sharper (From Merriam's dictionary) - 1. cheat, 2. especially : a cheating gambler

AKA one that deals dishonestly with others, a swindler (especially at cards), professional gambler, a person who cheats or swindles, fraud, sly or artful (clever in an underhand way).
21 posted on 09/26/2015 6:47:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: al baby
Who Are the Hippies?

The gene pool of useful idiots now destroying the country.

22 posted on 09/26/2015 6:52:35 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: dontreadthis
Hippies were not political. There were FAR more “new lefties” at Stop the Draft Week than hippies. The confusion between hippies and political activists persists. “Real” hippies devoutly scorned ALL politics, left and right, seeing them ALL as a snare and delusion perpetuating hostility and division and all humanity's problems.

I think we were right only in this. Peace requires inner transformation; no “system” can provide it. In just about everything else we were as wrong as can be.

It was interesting. Though some of the interests, styles, and lingo lasted, my opinion at the time was that the Hippies phenomenon was done by 1969 or 70 and even beginning to fade by the end of 67. It budded in 1965 and blossomed in 67, and faded fast.

I think it failed because most people want to do something, even if it's just make fancy candles to sell at Woodstock.

For my part, by the autumn of 67 I had come to believe that man's imperfections were serious and that he was not perfectible and certainly not by trying to be gentle, generous, and happy.

So I thought of the effort as a kind of naive flash in the pan. But it was too obviously impossible, as the waiting rooms of the STD clinics and the reliance on the generosity of people who actually had jobs made clear.

I think these things happen over and over again in history.

23 posted on 09/26/2015 6:56:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: dontreadthis
1967 also gave us:
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Are you Experienced?
Surrealistic Pillow, and
Disraeli Gears

So there's that, anyway....

24 posted on 09/26/2015 6:56:45 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: dontreadthis

I remember those days well. Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll! Tun in, Turn on, Drop out!

The ones I remember were counter-culture. Anything that could be considered “Middle Class” was railed against. Their biggest target was MARRIAGE and family life! “Outdated! Old hat! Unnecessary”. If you loved someone you just shacked up with them! After all, the marriage license was “only a piece of paper”!

Now those old Hippies and their children consider marriage the most important thing two people can engage in, but ONLY if you are GAY!


25 posted on 09/26/2015 6:59:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: dontreadthis

A fact about the original Hippies that is seldom mentioned is that they were great believers in personal filth. That is, they often abhorred bathing, to the point where they could be smelled downwind from a block away. Even those attending university could horribly pollute classrooms with their stench.

And, by the latter part of the 1960s, they created such an explosion of venereal diseases that the public health authorities had to begin a multimedia advertising campaign against VD.

What began with the “love beads” Hippies, espousing idealistic claptrap, evolved into disgusting and violent chaos by the time of the Altamont Free Concert in 1969.

Importantly, in most of the US, Hippies were rare, preferring to flock to the coasts to spread their grossness. But middle American teenagers absorbed some of their fashion sense in little ways, and were much cleaner than the bona fides.

The unnerving nature of the military draft, and how it was unfairly and disturbingly applied, did much to create the Hippies, as did the first great burst of leftism in the universities, and the very limited mass media, basically just three TV networks and newspapers.

The flip side to this was the abject boredom found in the newly built midwestern and western cities and suburbs. Because there were so very few recreations, and yet there were inexpensive musical instruments, garage bands proliferated. And though there were a vast number of these, the competition forced a lot of creativity in music.

There is a website that streams recordings of a lot of “also ran” music from the time. While not good enough to make the big time, it was enough to be played on the radio, at least in regional markets.

http://www.beyondthebeatgeneration.com/


26 posted on 09/26/2015 7:02:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: dontreadthis

I remember despising them back when this article was written. I haven’t changed my mind. They wanted a life without responsibility or demands - all pleasure, no work. Some died, most outgrew it, and the rest went into either education or government.


27 posted on 09/26/2015 7:03:09 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: blueheron2
The language is a bit archaic, but the analysis in the article is sound enough. The hippies were, and their descendants still are, about pure self-indulgence, which extends but is not limited to sex and drugs. It is useful to recognize that this is not a new temptation. The dissolute rich and the improvident poor have always indulged some of the same behaviors, and wealthy families have traditionally recognized that their children were at particular risk of falling into this trap. Many of the rituals of childrearing among the very rich have their roots in trying to instill a status based code of behavior that militates against this. There may be enough family income that no one actually needs to work, but one would look shabby among one's peers if he doesn't measure up. The elite competition is about status, not money.

The natural check on improvident behavior is the need to earn a living. What has changed the equation in recent decades is a welfare state that will feed, house, and medicate the shiftless with no questions asked. There is less here than meets the eye; when society goes into the business of subsidizing irresponsibility and self-destructive behaviors, we will get more irresponsibility and self-destructive behaviors.

The link between the hippie lifestyle and its various derivatives and leftist politics is twofold: the lifestyle degenerates reject all traditional moral and social codes that impose disciplines, which dovetails with the deconstructionist agenda of the left, and the improvident naturally want an ever more expansive welfare state, since they have no intention of actually earning their own way.

28 posted on 09/26/2015 7:06:16 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: redfreedom

the “silver pony-tails” as Breitbart called them


29 posted on 09/26/2015 7:15:42 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis
What? Twenty-five posts an no one has yet said:

If you can remember the sixties then YOU WERE NOT THERE. ;^)

30 posted on 09/26/2015 7:16:22 AM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces!)
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To: dontreadthis

like, bump for later, man.


31 posted on 09/26/2015 7:16:25 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: knarf

Many hippies ..me included, moved to the right ..some died off early some are simply brain dead


32 posted on 09/26/2015 7:19:13 AM PDT by woofie
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To: blueheron2; elcid1970

the yippies looked like hippies, but they were the origin of the new left


33 posted on 09/26/2015 7:20:22 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Larry Lucido

Boom!

Yes. A Catholic professor, Danforth fellow, formerly active in conservative California politics, worked with Ward Connerly ... was the guy I hitchiked across the country with in April and August of 1967.

Many became religious and joined real or quasi- monastic communities, Christian and Buddhist. One, already an electronic whiz kid, ended up as a sound engineer for some serious recording studios and became an EE professor at a respectable univeristy.

I, as is obvious, just continued on my merry, irresponsible way ....


34 posted on 09/26/2015 7:21:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Mr Rogers

My thoughts exactly, but intelligently expressed.


35 posted on 09/26/2015 7:25:30 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Yep.

I was a 16 year old McGovern-supporting hippie-wannabe in 1972 (bra-less is a good look for many 18-20 year old chicks). By 1976 I was voting for Gerald Ford in my first presidential election (and only because RR didn’t get the nomination).

David Horowitz is another significant example of someone who grew up.


36 posted on 09/26/2015 7:33:41 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: dontreadthis

I was a redneck hippie, late 60’s early 70’s. The chicks were a lot of fun back then, they didn’t swear or hardly argue. Especially after a bottle of Boone’s Farm or Spanada and a few doobies. Many good times at rock festivals.


37 posted on 09/26/2015 7:33:53 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: laker_dad
Actually I find bras on women more attractive. The braless look never appealed to me. Except maybe when I was a teenage with hormones raging.

But the hippies. I vaguely remember those days. I was born in the early 1960s so missed most of that scene. By the time I came of age, most of those hippies were becoming yuppies.

I do remember back in the 1970s a group of shiftless, smelly people that used to hang out by the convenience store with their dungaree jackets, smoking those funny cigarettes with their long hair and all those beads. My father used to tell me that these were hippies and that if I ever turned out like them, that he would beat me senseless and toss me out of the house.

It was always black and white with my father. No gray area. But I turned out okay.

38 posted on 09/26/2015 7:36:57 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: al baby

LOL! Yup. The ones that said don’t trust anybody over 30 are well over 30 and a lot of them, even ones who were on the fbi most wanted list at some point, have attained positions of power. Guess what they found out. Power GOOD and the money that goes with it too. I avoided becoming one by joining the Navy in ‘67. :>} Doesn’t mean I didn’t grow my hair out once I got out but never embraced the “lifestyle”. Thankfully. But, I still know a lot of them and also a lot of wannabe hippies. 50 years later.


39 posted on 09/26/2015 7:44:25 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: al baby

They went from promoting freedom of expression and loving every individual regardless of who or what they were; to stripping everyone of their individuality, deviding everyone into classes, some of which they deemed special rights, others deemed hate groups that could be prosecuted for hate speech if they dare exercise their freedom of expression.


40 posted on 09/26/2015 7:54:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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