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Life on Earth likely started 4.1 billion years ago (shortened title)
Science Daily ^ | 10/19/2015 | UCLA Staff

Posted on 10/19/2015 3:04:57 PM PDT by JimSEA

UCLA geochemists have found evidence that life likely existed on Earth at least 4.1 billion years ago -- 300 million years earlier than previous research suggested. The discovery indicates that life may have begun shortly after the planet formed 4.54 billion years ago.

The graphite is older than the zircon containing it, the researchers said. They know the zircon is 4.1 billion years old, based on its ratio of uranium to lead; they don't know how much older the graphite is.The carbon contained in the zircon has a characteristic signature -- a specific ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-13 -- that indicates the presence of photosynthetic life.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: atmosphere; earth; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; life; photosynthesis
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To: dsrtsage
OK, good, should now be easy enough to create life in a jar. (note, I am a god skeptic, but that means I am open to a lot of ideas, but will question all of them. I have yet to see a single form of life created in a jar from just raw materials. Nor have I seen a single incidence of one species morphing into another in the fossil record).

You are right...but there is no need to be a skeptic, there is no way imaginable that everything that exists, just one day happened....call it/Him whatever you want, but something set it all in motion.

41 posted on 10/19/2015 7:24:16 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!)
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To: TigersEye
What gets me is how tough plant life is and how hard it is to grow a decent garden!

It's a close cousin of how easy it is to start a forest fire and how hard it is to start a camp fire!

42 posted on 10/19/2015 8:29:26 PM PDT by null and void (Reality 1, Liberal Academics 0)
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To: Rodamala; ZirconEncrustedTweezers
I’ve heard of zircon encrusted tweezers, but not zircon encrusted graphite.

Name him, ping him.

43 posted on 10/19/2015 8:34:01 PM PDT by null and void (Reality 1, Liberal Academics 0)
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To: JimSEA

BFL. Fascinating stuff!!


44 posted on 10/19/2015 8:41:04 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: TigersEye

Funny thing is, I spend quite a lot of time trying to grow some decent squash of odd varieties.
(mostly without any success)

So I’m on my back porch yesterday and I see this small orange flower coming up in my backyard and I’m thinking dandelion until I go over to it and it’s...
SQUASH!

Heck, it’s almost November, too late...

But still! Damn!!


45 posted on 10/19/2015 8:47:14 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: null and void

That’s for sure! The matchstick paradox. lol


46 posted on 10/19/2015 8:49:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: djf

I hear that. I wanted to grow just a couple of pie pumpkins. Planted three mounds in a bin of compost three times before the weather cleared enough for a planting to sprout. Around mid-July a volunteer pumpkin plant started up in this year’s compost pile and is now the only plant to survive the two mild frosts I’ve had. No time to mature a fruit though.


47 posted on 10/19/2015 9:01:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Thing is, between regular store-bought plants and volunteers, I ALWAYS go volunteers, whenever possible. Just harvest the seeds and re-plant in the spring.

Volunteers show they have the right genetics to grow in your (or my) conditions.

There are a few exceptions, like potatoes, which I would not recommend.

Happy planting!!!


48 posted on 10/19/2015 9:06:06 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf

I save seed too. My pumpkin seed is second generation from a store bought. Last year I did manage to bring in two nice pie pumpkins from one plant. I hoped I might double my crop by planting three plants. I have two softball sized pumpkins, one is turning orange, which makes them less than on third expected size.

I doubt that the seed will be viable so I’ll have to use the 2014 seed next year. I’m fighting a very short season at 7,600 feet and this spring was miserably cold and wet. Hoping for a better May in 2016.


49 posted on 10/19/2015 9:20:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

It surprises me that year-to-year, things can be so very different. Some years I have so many tomatoes I can’t give them away!
Other years, a single tomato seems like a dream...


50 posted on 10/19/2015 9:26:10 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf

Oh, as for taters ... usually I plant red potatoes I bought at the store that start sprouting. Or they volunteer in the compost pile no intentional planting involved.

I bought some Purple Majesty seed taters this year and planted five mounds in front of the pumpkins. They grew like crazy and I expect to dig up several pounds of purple taters very soon. I can see numerous nice ones breaking the surface. That and three monster Brussels Sprouts plants were my successes this year while most everything else just couldn’t get going.


51 posted on 10/19/2015 9:29:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: djf

Exactly right! It started out so cool I thought beans, peas and lettuce would be the ticket. They fizzled so badly I’m embarrassed to admit that I planted any. lol

The carrots might have done OK. I haven’t dug them up yet.
They’re from seed I harvested last year.


52 posted on 10/19/2015 9:33:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Those purple taters are very, very good keepers and excellent eaters as well! So you are well advised to save some for planting next spring!

The very best eaters I have found are the finger potatoes. They are small and white and look like little fingers, elongated sort of... if you can find them in the garden store or wherever, do it!


53 posted on 10/19/2015 9:38:42 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf
I got my seed potatoes from this outfit...

Ronniger Potato Farm LLC

I hope to keep some for next year. I also bought some Colorado Rose, a red potato w/ white flesh, last spring. The eyes were barely visible on them and they never sprouted. Disappointing but I might buy some other variety next spring such as those yellow fingerlings. Space permitting. I could have planted four times as many PMs from the pound of seed potatoes they sent me.

54 posted on 10/19/2015 9:48:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Ronnigers, I know them well! Back in the early 90’s I used to order from them.

You might try some of the Alaskan taters. They have a short growing season up there, and might do well where you’re at.

I personally find potatoes to be one of the best growing crops. Onions too!


55 posted on 10/19/2015 10:02:42 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf

I might try the Alaskans. Thanks! I did get some yellow onion sets from Ronnigers also and they did pretty well.


56 posted on 10/19/2015 10:19:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: DouglasKC

Sounds like you need an Intelligent Chooser” and selector and picker and sorter to pick out each block (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...) in the right order though.

Remember, evolution works. By trillions to the trillionth power of get-each-random-mutation-in-the-right-order-AND-get-each-random mutation-be-the-right “random” event.

An “eye” has no survival benefits (and will burden its possessor!) UNTIL the optic nerve, the lens fluid, the brain, the brain connections and processes, the muscles, the lens muscles, the coordination between optic nerve-brain-muscle all “work”.


57 posted on 10/20/2015 5:40:48 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: JimSEA
UCLA geochemists have found evidence that life likely existed on Earth at least 4.1 billion years ago...


58 posted on 10/20/2015 6:25:59 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JimSEA
Quote: "The creationist conveniently left off natural selection. "

and the evolutionist conveniently leaves out how likely a favorable mutation is! What exactly is the mechanism for the appearance of beneficial traits that improve (add complexity) the genus?

59 posted on 10/20/2015 6:31:50 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: JimSEA

http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html

Seems they really do not have any, but a long string of claiming it and then refusing to correct when proven wrong.


60 posted on 10/20/2015 6:33:40 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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