Will take action against firms that replace American workers: Trump

Rediff Business ^ | October 31, 2015

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Republican US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has asked Entertainment giant Walt Disney to hire back every employee they replaced with low-wage H-1B workers, including Indians, and vowed to take action against firms that replace American workers if elected to the top job.

Disney in June had laid off about 250 employees and replaced them with Indians holding H1-B visas. "I am calling today on Disney to hire back every one of the workers they replaced...," Trump said.

If elected, Trump said he would take action against companies that replace American workers.

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http://www.rediff.com/business/report/will-take-action-against-firms-that-replace-american-workers-trump/20151031.htm

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I'm a GREAT Ted Cruz supporter ...

I spearheaded and organized the FIRST and VERY successful "Ted Cruz Florida Grassroots Leadership Conference" on 18 July 2015 in Orlando.


BUT ... as a Senior Aerospace Mechanical Engineer ... I've seen LOTS of Americans Computer Programmers, Engineers (et al) get FIRED and replaced by Indians and other H1B Visa "drones" ...

"Every" American scientist and engineer live in FEAR of H1B Visas ... trust me ...


Finally ... Ted Cruz's (otherwise brilliant campaign) comes to a screeching "Warp-Speed-Nine" DEAD-STOP in the future debate where Donald Trump CHALLENGES Ted Cruz on H1B Visas.

At that point, Ted Cruz's campaign is OVER - DEAD - FINISHED.




Jeff Roe (Ted Cruz National Campaign Manager) ... are you LISTENING ?????




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[Campion]

Ted is nuts on this issue. Dead wrong. I'm sorry he's dead wrong, because I like him on almost everything else.

Saying that 183 new jobs are created, sure ... what kind of jobs are they, versus the kind that are lost? If we're losing 100 software engineer careers and "gaining" 183 jobs flipping burgers, doing part-time retail sales, mowing lawns (those jobs are taken by Mexican illegas anyway), etc., is that really some sort of "advantage"?

H1-B's aren't the "immigrants" who are founding companies, btw, those are generally people who start out as legal permanent residents and become citizens.

It's utterly black and white. You don't dump your own citizens who are competent and educated on the unemployment line so that you can import two guys from India to take their place. This is the only country in the world stupid enough to do that.

[dirtboy]

HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.

But not with H-1B as I read the law. Also, having dealt with a bad division in my company that got outsourced (with even worse results), I can say that line workers in our division provided to management a clear synopsis of what was wrong with that division (a few bad apples not adhering to basic tenets of SDLC), and a viable way forward. Management refused to act on those and axed the whole division, including some very valuable employees who we never have been able to adequately replace (and whom management later tried to hire back). In my experience when IT shops are not working, it is largely a management problem, not a line worker problem, especially with older employees who know how stuff is supposed to be done).

[LS]

There are a million things a president can do via regulations that currently exist to made life hard on such a company. Not one of them involves "making law."

For example, the Labor Department can launch an investigation of such a business---just as Obama has done vs. conservative businesses I know. The Commerce Department can refuse to include such businesses in discussions with other countries. And so on. This stuff really adds up, none of it unconstitutional.

The point is, would a Pres. Cruz do so? I don't think so. Moreover, a Pres. Cruz would not have the ability to go over the heads of the establishment to the public as a whole with such arguments. He would be neutered. That's why I think Trump is the only hope to right this ship.

[ziravan]

If Trump had said this is an inappropriate use of H1B’s then I wouldn’t disagree. Instead what he said was he would use the power of the federal government to force Disney to adopt hiring practices that conform to his wishes.

[mouse1]

Trump is bringing attention to immigration and H1 visas. If not for Trump this election would be about vaginas, gay marriage, black lives matter, fantasy football and all that other important stuff.

[Campion]

HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.

Then they need to establish "cause" in each individual case, the way it's always done. "We want to import hundreds of cheap foreigners with the connivance of the US government to do your job" isn't "cause".

[trebb]

That’s fine, but what ‘action’ could be take?

The last seven years aside, the president does not make law.

And if Trump is going to be another ‘I make the laws I want’ president, then I do not want him.

So, who do you want? Are you donating to that candidate? Are you donating to FR?

If the answer to both/either question(s) is "No", then what are the core beliefs you claim to support?

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

[rrrod]

100% correcto. While Im not completely agaisnt this visa program...its been used in the medical profession for yrs.
But now the system is out of control now. Its worth noting the visa holders are not required to carry obamacare....

[Campion]

In my experience when IT shops are not working, it is largely a management problem, not a line worker problem

Almost always true in any field, per W. Edwards Deming. You won't get quality work from people if the system they work in is broken and causing variability. Who sets up the system? Management.

[mouse1]

of every 100 H1B visas issued, 183 jobs are created for American citizens.

That doesn’t sound right to me. What kind of jobs? Grocery clerk, fast food worker?

[drpix]

"That's fine, but what 'action' could be take?"

Current immigration and labor law, on H1B visa requirements, are openly flouted on a grand scale!

All is needed is a President who (unlike Obama or Bush before him) will stop the Washington supported lawlessness. Here are the exact text of those flouted requirement directly from federal government websites:

"... wages that are at least the actual wage level paid by the employer to all other individuals with similar experience and qualifications for the specific employment in question, or the prevailing wage level for the occupational classification in the area of employment, whichever is greater, based on the best information available as of the time of filing the application." (link)

"The employer will not displace any similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after applying for H-1B status, or an extension of status for any H-1B worker." (link)

[Cen-Tejas]

Thanks for saving me the time to write exactly what u wrote.

If your in St Thomas, I lived there a few months in 2012, before moving to St Croix for a year and then St. Maarten. Great fun those days!

[SharpRightTurn]

Re Ted’s rationale:

“A new study from the Center for Immigration Studies found that more than 18 million new immigrants have entered the United States either legally or illegally since 2000, while only 9.3 million jobs were added over the same period of time. That represents two new immigrants for ever job created in the past 14 years.

“The study found that the amount of U.S. born workers (ages 16 to 65) grew by 16.5 million since 2000 in addition to the 18 million new foreign citizens.

“The widest ratio of immigrants entering the country to jobs created is during the period of time “after the Great Recession began”. According to the study, “7.8 million new immigrants arrived from 2008 to 2014, yet net job growth was just two million” over the same time period. That’s almost four immigrants for every one job.

“According to CIS Director of Research and author of the study, Steven Camarota:

“The key question for policymakers is whether it makes sense to allow in this number of legal immigrants and tolerate this level of illegal immigration when long-term job growth has not come close to matching these numbers. Moreover, this record immigration has occurred at a time when job growth has not even kept pace with natural population increase, let alone new immigration. Unfortunately, policy-makers have given little though to the adsorption capacity of the U.S. labor market when formulating immigration policy.”

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/study-93-million-new-jobs-and-18-million-new-immigrants-2000

[ziravan]

They need to prove cause to Donald Trump and the federal government before they let someone go?

Really?!

If they prove cause, might they have permission to manage their own workforce?

How much government meddling is enough?

So much for a right to work...

[rrrod]

100% correcto. While Im not completely agaisnt this visa program...its been used in the medical profession for yrs.
But now the system is out of control now. Its worth noting the visa holders are not required to carry obamacare....

[M Kehoe]

Good morning.

Trump is completely right about this.

If we do indeed still have a Constitution, then it's not the Donald's call.

5.56mm

[rlmorel]

This sounds fine, but I don’t trust him at all. I simply don’t, and him making statements like this makes me trust him even less.

Doesn’t mean I won’t vote for him, but when someone says something like that, they sound simply like they are pandering for votes.

Just my opinion.

[usafa92]

There is something about Cruz that bothers me and I can’t place my finger on it. He’s a fine conservative for the most part, but something I don’t trust about him. Hes a little to polished and a little too politician. He plays the outsider but I really don’t think he is.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

That doesn’t sound right to me. What kind of jobs? Grocery clerk, fast food worker?

The statistics are not specific. That could be the situation. Then again, it might not be.

That's why I say that the issue is more complex than simply the situation at Disney.