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'It was a massacre': Native Americans reveal how they REALLY feel about Thanksgiving(BARF ALERT)
The Dailymail.com ^ | 26 November 2015 | By Erica Tempesta and Valerie Siebert For Dailymail.com

Posted on 11/26/2015 12:22:48 PM PST by Jacob Kell

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To: Jacob Kell

When Columbus discovered America there were over 600 different Indian tribes on the continent who were in almost constant war with one another and it was often very brutal and vicious . Some tribes were almost totally annihilated by their fighting . One might even refer to it as a massacre . When will they pay up ???


21 posted on 11/26/2015 12:58:54 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 ()-: ISIS is Islam without the lipstick :-()
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To: Jacob Kell
When the first Europeans landed on the area north of the Rio Grande and started settling, they found a mostly empty, huge land mass. Contrary to "accounts" from leftist historians, there were no huge populated cities like in Mexico where the Aztecs had subjugated and slaughtered many of their Indian neighbors. There could not have been 15-20 millions people like the leftist historians claim. The population north of the Rio Grande numbered probably not more than one or two million....if that.

Without large settlements it's almost impossible to establish large populations. The hunter-gatherer, nomadic lifestyle of many of the north of Mexico Indian tribes could not have built large populations.

So the original European settlers found mostly a huge wilderness, sparsely populated, with some friendly Indians and some not-so-friendly Indians. Many Indian tribes were quite warlike and didn't shrink from invading enemy Indian territory, taking their lands, and killing of lot of their people. In short, they acted like people from other parts of the world acted.

Whatever the faults (and they had some serious faults) of the European settlers, they established a culture of law and civilization that eventually led to the United States.

Now the question I want to ask today's Indians: would they still rather be living the nomadic, h-g lifestyle, dwelling in tepees, and being at constant war with other Indian tribes?

22 posted on 11/26/2015 12:59:54 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Rodamala

NOW the Lions decide to play. Darn shame since they’ve looked real good these past three games.


23 posted on 11/26/2015 1:07:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Eddie01

Listening to the (Alice’s Restaurant) Massacree as I type


24 posted on 11/26/2015 1:14:02 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Jacob Kell

Click on the link.

25 posted on 11/26/2015 1:15:50 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: Jacob Kell
Americapox: The Missing Plague
26 posted on 11/26/2015 1:18:04 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Jacob Kell

Dale Gribble: “Do you people even celebrate Thanksgiving?”

John Red Corn: “We did. Once.”


27 posted on 11/26/2015 1:22:59 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Bets on if any of these huys are authentic native Indians or those borne out of socialism of the ValJar variety.


28 posted on 11/26/2015 1:28:43 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Jacob Kell

Most Indian tribes sided with the British in the America Revolution.

So F*ck them


29 posted on 11/26/2015 1:32:35 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Jacob Kell

Go back to India!!!!


30 posted on 11/26/2015 1:44:46 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Thier open borders policy didn’t work out for them.


31 posted on 11/26/2015 1:48:37 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Jacob Kell

A few links on the paradise before the White Man came...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3364891/posts

http://westerndigs.org/infamous-mass-grave-of-young-women-in-ancient-city-of-cahokia-also-holds-men-study/

http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/760183/posts

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/06/0601_wireanasazi.html

http://www.li.suu.edu/library/circulation/Dean/anth2030edArchaeologistsRediscoverCannibalsSpr2010.pdf

http://discovermagazine.com/1998/feb/americancannibal1407

http://anthropology.net/2007/07/16/parallel-life-and-death-1275-ad-massacred-gallina-and-vanishing-anasazi/

http://ancientstandard.com/2007/07/17/csi-new-mexico-%E2%80%93-possible-genocide-ca-1275-ad/


32 posted on 11/26/2015 1:55:14 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Jacob Kell

One of the great unknowns of American prehistory is what is now the state of Kentucky. What is known is that there is a vast number of Indian weapons buried there, as if there had been a terrible and long lasting war, much like the European Hundred Years’ War, between the large and powerful northern Indian confederation, and the large and powerful southern tribes.

That it took place in Kentucky is obvious, because east of the Mississippi, Kentucky is the major crossroads of both North-South and East-West travel. It had this strategic value even through the US Civil War.

Because of this great war, the area of almost the entire state was a gigantic “neutral zone”. Hunting parties could enter, but long term camping was forbidden. The Europeans became aware of this neutral zone, and it was essential to western expansion.

When the British expelled the Scots-Irish borderers, and they came to America, the east coast was already occupied, so they were told to go inland into Kentucky, both the northern and southern routes blocked by the belligerent tribes.

The Scots-Irish borderers were a very tough people, and quickly built powerful forts in Kentucky, so by the time the northern and southern tribes discovered their presence and tried to destroy them, it was too late. But this opened the gate to western expansion.

The northern tribes were effectively destroyed as powerful armies by the combination of the French and Indian War, and Pontiac’s Rebellion, both of which were utterly brutal, no quarters fighting.

The southern tribes remained, and when Andrew Jackson became president, he realized that a long and nasty war with them was inevitable, so he ordered their internal deportation, “The Trail of Tears”, kicking them west, across the Mississippi. Several of his family had been murdered by them years before, so there was a strong personal element as well.

And when Indians whine about The Trail of Tears, it should be noted that the US Army soldiers who accompanied them died of disease at about the same proportion as did the Indians.


33 posted on 11/26/2015 2:00:42 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

https://youtu.be/G83M3NKo4mI

This sums up my feelings on the matter concisely.


34 posted on 11/26/2015 2:00:42 PM PST by capt. obvious
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To: dfwgator

Sure put on a nice tribute to diversity at half-time, though.


35 posted on 11/26/2015 2:02:47 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: fhayek

“Native Americans never fought each other over land’’. Yup, that’s right. They were the happy children of the forest.


36 posted on 11/26/2015 2:10:40 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: fhayek

They were peaceful people. Didnt know what war was.


37 posted on 11/26/2015 2:21:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jacob Kell

This is for the activists, not the many, the un-hateful Indians:

I’m sure those verbally passed down histories haven’t changed at all over the centuries.

Besides, you guys scalped by GGGG grandmother, so shaddup.

And thanks for leaving my GGG grandmother alive in her crib, or I wouldn’t be here.


38 posted on 11/26/2015 2:24:09 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: Bryanw92

Not all of them. The Civilizations in Meso-America and Peru were at least on a par with those of the late Bronze age. and they had a written language.


39 posted on 11/26/2015 2:24:56 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I had 2 ancestors killed by the Indians and the first to America was wounded in Fort Saybrook, CT. One was killed in Northampton, MA, and the other at Ft. Redstone in PA.

The one in PA, about my 5th gr grandfather, the Indians ambushed some men clearing a field. The Indian cut out his heart and held it aloft on knife/spear. Jonathan Hardin for whom I believe Hardin County, KY was named, shot him dead.

I've read account after account in family histories about the Indians killing the colonists, and the Indiana provoked all of them. Later there was some brutality when later settlers went on the offensive, definitely.

I know the ancestor above, my patrilineal line, took part in the massacre at Mystic. It makes me feel bad the way it is said to have happened, but reading excerpts from Lion Gardiner's journal, the Indians kept picking them off one or a few at a time.

What really ticks me off are self righteous people who live on land and property allegedly stolen from the natives. They pontificate of the evils of the white men and think they have no blame because THEIR ancestors came after the Indian business was over with. They share in the collective guilt then.

40 posted on 11/26/2015 2:25:32 PM PST by Aliska
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