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'It was a massacre': Native Americans reveal how they REALLY feel about Thanksgiving(BARF ALERT)
The Dailymail.com ^ | 26 November 2015 | By Erica Tempesta and Valerie Siebert For Dailymail.com

Posted on 11/26/2015 12:22:48 PM PST by Jacob Kell

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To: vetvetdoug

“When there were Native Americans only on the continent was the only time black crime was non existent.”

But there was still plenty of “red crime”.


61 posted on 11/26/2015 4:50:10 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Native American community? The tribes are not even close to homogeneous, in history, location, whatever. Sounds like more liberal highjack political drival.


62 posted on 11/26/2015 5:08:31 PM PST by D Rider
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For later....


63 posted on 11/26/2015 5:43:07 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: vladimir998

The MAIN problem with the Indians IS they didn’t have Lawyers.


64 posted on 11/26/2015 5:44:30 PM PST by corbe (mystified)
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To: Eddie01

as did the Dallas Cowboys


65 posted on 11/26/2015 5:50:42 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Jacob Kell

As someone who studies history I will say this:

1. The Native Americans were not the saints they are often made out to be by leftists. They fought wars among themselves over territory and resources the same as every other tribe, people, or nation on the planet. Powhatan intimated to John Smith that he had built his confederation of tribes through conquest.

2. The relations between the early settlers and the natives were much more equal than commonly supposed. The Pilgrims and their near neighbors often played referee among the various tribes who lived nearby in hopes of keeping the peace.

3. The natives adapted to the societies of the settlers around them, often effectively to the point where there was not much difference. Joseph Brant, an Iroquois chief in the 1700s lived in a house that had glass windows. In researching my own family I believe the first ones who had glass windows might have been in the late 1800s....

4. Let’s just take a historical supposition. Suppose, instead of white Europeans, the Mongols had somehow come. Genghis Khan and his ilk. Does anyone rationally suppose the lot of the natives would have been better? I think rather that the whole of their culture and people would have perished from the earth, fighting against people who were ruthless enough to kill all male children taller than a wagon axle. My point is they could have come out a whole lot worse.


66 posted on 11/26/2015 6:40:35 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: ifinnegan

Maybe your ancestors shouldn’t have sided with the French in the French and Indian War—maybe you should not have murdered women and children in that war. Then in the Revolutionary War you shouldn’t have fought for the British. Bad choices won you no friends with the Americans.


67 posted on 11/26/2015 7:12:08 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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Billboard on display for decades near Syracuse N.Y.:


68 posted on 11/26/2015 7:24:26 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Bryanw92

The mayan cities have inscriptions. Few perusable materials have been preserved. Some of it was destroyed by missionaries, in part because it continued rituals that to the friars and indeed to us were pretty awful, blood sacrifices of animals and even humans. This made it hard to decipher the inscriptions on the temples. But very sophisticated stuff including celestial calendars of great accuracy; Further, there is something else to be considered. The Aztec capital that Cortes found was probably as livable as any European or middle eastern city of the time. And even in north America, in the Southeast of these United States, the ordinary person in his village was probably about as well off as the ordinary French peasant.


69 posted on 11/26/2015 9:34:11 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: GenXteacher

Suppose even if the Chinese fleets of the early 15th century, which certainly reached Africa and maybe explored the Coast of North America (they certainly had the capability), had colonized California. Would the natives bee treated any better than they were by the Spanish when they came in the 1770s? There is an effort by the Left to demonize there Europeans and to romanticize the Indians. But California before the Europeans arrived was no eden.


70 posted on 11/26/2015 9:41:48 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Bryanw92

Read the book “Guns, germs and steel”. Very insightful


71 posted on 11/27/2015 7:29:01 AM PST by Cronos (Obama�s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad�s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Mosl)
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To: Cronos

>>Read the book “Guns, germs and steel”. Very insightful

Yes it is, but it is not the whole story.


72 posted on 11/27/2015 7:42:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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