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Gravitational wave rumors ripple through science world
spacedaily.com ^ | 01/12/2016

Posted on 01/12/2016 9:00:15 PM PST by BenLurkin

There has been no announcement, no peer review or publication of the findings - all typically important steps in the process of releasing reliable and verifiable scientific research.

Instead, a message on Twitter from an Arizona State University cosmologist, Lawrence Krauss, has sparked a firestorm of speculation and excitement.

Krauss does not work with the Advanced Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, or LIGO, which is searching for ripples in the fabric of space and time.

But he tweeted on Monday about the apparent shoring up of rumor he'd heard some months ago, that LIGO scientists were writing up a paper on gravitational waves they had discovered using US-based detectors.

"My earlier rumor about LIGO has been confirmed by independent sources. Stay tuned! Gravitational waves may have been discovered!! Exciting," Krauss tweeted.

His message has since between retweeted 1,800 times.

(Excerpt) Read more at spacedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: anotherfalsealarm; falsealarm; generalrelativity; gravityprobeb; ligo; relativity; specialrelativity; stringtheory
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To: BenLurkin

I was just reading about this on DISCLOSE TV.

Would be interesting if true. If only I knew enough about gravity waves to understand why it even matters.


21 posted on 01/12/2016 9:24:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
There are still Galileos out there, even in some universities. It just seems like there are very few.

Concensus science will hunt them down. I suspect these gravity deniers will be dealt with harshly.

22 posted on 01/12/2016 9:25:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: a fool in paradise
Gravitational wave

In physics, gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature of space-time which propagate as waves, traveling outward from the source.

Predicted in 1916[1][2] by Albert Einstein on the basis of his theory of general relativity,[3][4] gravitational waves theoretically transport energy as gravitational radiation.

Sources of detectable gravitational waves could possibly include binary star systems composed of white dwarfs, neutron stars, or black holes. The existence of gravitational waves is a possible consequence of the Lorentz invariance of general relativity since it brings the concept of a limiting speed of propagation of the physical interactions with it. Gravitational waves cannot exist in the Newtonian theory of gravitation, in which physical interactions propagate at infinite speed.

Although gravitational radiation has not been directly detected, there is indirect evidence for its existence.[5] For example, the 1993 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded for measurements of the Hulse-Taylor binary system which suggest that gravitational waves are more than a theoretical concept. Various gravitational-wave detectors are currently under construction or are in operation, such as Advanced LIGO which began observations in September 2015.[6]

On 17 March 2014, astronomers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics erroneously claimed that they had detected and produced "the first direct image of gravitational waves across the primordial sky" within the cosmic microwave background, providing flawed evidence for inflation and the Big Bang.[5][7][8][9][10][11]

On 19 June 2014, lowered confidence in confirming the cosmic inflation findings was reported[12][13][14] and on 19 September 2014, a further reduction in confidence was reported.[15][16] On 30 January 2015, even less confidence yet was reported;[17][18] Nature went as far as publishing a news article entitled "Gravitational waves discovery now officially dead".[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave

23 posted on 01/12/2016 9:28:11 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: dfwgator

While not a tax, they can fine you in Seattle (Seattle!) for collecting rain water!


24 posted on 01/12/2016 9:28:54 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: BenLurkin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-FSFtoeagc


25 posted on 01/12/2016 9:36:24 PM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: BenLurkin

Are we now going to spend a billion dollars to learn that the Earth sucks?


26 posted on 01/12/2016 9:38:34 PM PST by Vic S
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To: Steely Tom

Why is this news heavy, Doc?


27 posted on 01/12/2016 9:45:43 PM PST by LukeL
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To: BenLurkin

Gravity works for the Devil.


28 posted on 01/12/2016 9:55:59 PM PST by soycd
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To: LukeL

It remains one of the most difficult to prove predictions that comprise Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity. The discovery of gravitational waves would validate some avenues of further investigation of physics and invalidate others. This would give physicists a mammoth boost in redirecting their efforts towards discovering the mathematical equations that describe a unified theory of physics. Ultimately this would lead to new forms of applied science and technologies that would amount to wild science fiction today. In other words, for the people responsible for developing the fundamental science required for the next century and more of technological developments, the discovery of gravity waves is more useful than the discovery of fire.


29 posted on 01/12/2016 10:03:19 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

I thought that one of the previous posters had said that the waves themselves had been validated astrophysically but what is news here is that an earthbound detector had detected them. Is that more or less accurate?


30 posted on 01/12/2016 10:04:55 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: BenLurkin

Here, at Hanford LIGO, the Fleetwood Mac album Rumours is played on the intercom 24x7.


31 posted on 01/12/2016 10:10:01 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O�Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: El Cid

The ripples in the gravity field may be interrelated to Global warming. Anybody looked at that possibility?


32 posted on 01/12/2016 10:12:38 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: BenLurkin

There is a LIGO near Hammond that I have thought about visiting for years now. Maybe someday I will.


33 posted on 01/12/2016 10:15:09 PM PST by paintriot
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To: BenLurkin

It’s about time we all realize that gravity has kept our people down long enough! ;-)


34 posted on 01/12/2016 10:17:22 PM PST by r_barton
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To: paintriot

Parts of the LIGO facility near me (which I have toured and visited many times) now require a security clearance to enter. This is where the good rumors start.


35 posted on 01/12/2016 10:18:38 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O�Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Hiding space aliens no doubt.


36 posted on 01/12/2016 10:21:40 PM PST by paintriot
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To: BenLurkin

Wasn’t there some quack professor a week or two ago claiming gravity waves caused turbulence upsetting an airline flight?


37 posted on 01/12/2016 10:21:41 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

The journal NATURE reported that subsequent verification experiments kept lowering the confidence levels of the original finding in the peer reviewed publication’s results to the point were it is considered erroneous. It was suspected that galactic dust may have altered the measurements of the cosmic microwave background radiation and led to a possible erroneous finding. So, the search is still on to find the suspected gravitational waves by one or more of the other competing experiments. These rumors suggest such a discovery may have occurred and the research team is working to avoid having their experimental becoming unconfirmed by other independent projects.


38 posted on 01/12/2016 10:22:53 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: ASOC

More like Satan being released from his bottomless pit.


39 posted on 01/12/2016 10:23:34 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: WhiskeyX

Isn’t that referring to experimental data obtained before the Phase 2 upgrade? I am not sure — haven’t followed that closely.


40 posted on 01/12/2016 10:30:25 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O�Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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