Posted on 04/04/2016 7:08:53 AM PDT by Taxman
The Income Tax: Root of all Evil by Frank Chodorov
Foreword
THIS WAS, to be sure, "the home of the free and the land of the brave." Americans were free simply because the government was too weak to intervene in the private affairs of the people it did not have the money to do so and they were brave because a free people is always venturesome. The obligation of freedom is a willingness to stand on your own feet.
The early American wanted it that way. He was wary of government, especially one that was out of his reach. He had just rid himself of far away and self sufficient political establishment and he was not going to tolerate anything like it in his newly founded country. He recognized the need of some sort of government, to keep order, to protect him in the exercise of his rights, and to look after his interests in foreign lands. But, he wanted it understood that the powers of that government would be clearly defined and be limited; it could not go beyond specified limits. It was in recognition of this fear of centralized power that the Founding Fathers put into the Constitution it never would have been ratified without them very specific restraints on the federal government.
In other matters, the early American was willing to put his faith in home government, in a government of neighbors, in a government that one could keep one’s eyes on and, if necessary, lay one’s hands on. . . .
The Constitution, then, kept the federal government off balance and weak. And a weak government is the corollary of a strong people.
The Sixteenth Amendment changed all that. . . .
J. Bracken Lee,
Governor of Utah
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You may even have good points to make, but your presentation fails you.
I believe I get your point, but there’s a world of difference between the 2
- FT is ‘in your face’ on every receipt
- FT effects EVERYONE
- FT is VOLUNTARY
Concur, it does little for the trampling of our 5th and 13th A. Rights.
still, I would rather have 20 steps forward and 2 back instead of 1 forward 2 back
There’s NO need to parse, and be at the whim, of lawyer-speak when/if the 5th and 13th were followed in letter AND spirit.
Pretty simple English in “...property shall not be taken...” and “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude...shall exist within the United States...”.
“Caesar’s” is a strictly defined, authorized list of powers; not the leviathan we have had for the last 100+yrs.
You’d be 100% on point IF we were still a Constitutional Republic.
Parkin loves the tax man? There are much more easy ways to collect taxes that are far more efficient, far less abusive, and that preserve our right to privacy than the personal income tax. The only people that like the personal income tax are leftist control freaks and tax accountants. Which one are you?
First we should repeal the income tax and amend the Constitution to prevent it being reenacted. Then we can talk about just how much money the Federal Government really needs and where it should come from.
They were to be apportioned among the states by population, which it not the same as apportioning among individual citizens since the state legislatures could then raise the tax anyway they wanted. The point is now moot though. The 16th Amendment explicitly repealed that particular language in the Constitution.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
More tariffs and less income tax.
Whereas it is necessary for that support of government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement and protection of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares and merchandise:
IMO, the 16th never repealed/superseded the 4th, 5th nor the 13th, so it’s void on its face (regardless of the language gymnastics on either side).
Because our lawyer/politician class has NEVER done anything that they themselves could not drive a Mac Truck through. IE: “Job security”.
There is NOTHING preventing a tie-to clause so we DON’T have *both*.
Concur on the last point: Start from 0, figure what’s Constitutionally necessary and, IMO, make each State/territory pay their 1/x%.
Nothing except the most fundamental principle of republican government: that no legislature can bind its successors.
Well, it is patently obvious to me and every other person on this thread that you have no idea what the FairTax is about!
FairTax is a consumption tax!
Please explain the convoluted logic that led you to the conclusion that FairTax was an income tax.
To those of us who support the FairTax, that is a great feature!
Disempowering the establishment and empowering individuals is HUGE!
When the takers outnumber the makers, our FRee Republic is doomed!
FairTax is not an income tax.
There is legislation in the Congress to repeal the 16th Amendment.
FairTax fundamentally alters the relationship between Americans and their government.
Government becomes the slave, again, exactly as the Founders intended!
American citizens become the master!
PS The Federal income tax sole purpose is to control the American population. FEAR!
Federal income tax has nothing to do with raising funds for the legitimate purposes of government!
They are coming for you!
FairTax solves the tariff problem by taxing imports at the point of sale.
No, the nrst “fair tax” is a consumption tax. It is not levied against income, it is levied against retail expenditures.
The fair tax is an excise tax on retail consumption.
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