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Autopsy report: Terence Crutcher had PCP in his system when he died (Tulsa)
Tulsa World ^ | 10/11/2016 | Staff

Posted on 10/11/2016 12:56:41 PM PDT by T-Bird45

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To: Paladin2

Interpretation of Blood Concentrations: There is no direct correlation between PCP concentration and behavioral or physical findings. Blood levels peak 1-4 hours after ingestion. Average peak plasma concentrations of 2.7 and 2.9 ng/mL were achieved after a 1 mg oral and intravenous dose, respectively. PCP concentrations ranged from 0.3 to 143 ng/mL in 63 patients presenting at a psychiatric hospital emergency room and were associated with a wide variety of psychotic clinical pictures resembling mania, depression or schizophrenia. All these patients had at least one manifestation of toxic psychosis and/or acute delirium, in addition to other symptoms. Similarly, plasma PCP concentrations ranged up to 812 ng/mL in 22 patients with nonfatal PCP intoxication. The most common physical findings were combativeness-agitation (64%), depressed level of consciousness (50%), hypertension (43%), miosis (43%) and tachycardia (43%). Blood PCP concentrations ranged from 12 to 118 ng/mL in 26 individuals arrested for public intoxication.


21 posted on 10/11/2016 1:18:41 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Support Trump/Pence in 2016!)
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To: T-Bird45

Four officers on the scene. Four officers saw what was going on. One officer felt that the situation justified killing the man. Were the other three careless?


22 posted on 10/11/2016 1:21:58 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Randy Larsen

Thanks. I have no interest in personal, direct testing.


23 posted on 10/11/2016 1:22:13 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: DoodleDawg

The others did not have the same time on-scene as the first officer and were not first-hand observers of his actions where he returned to the vehicle, ignoring lawful orders and a drawn weapon. An unknown factor is whether those other three had the same training as the first officer on recognizing individuals who were operating under the influence of chemical enhancement like PCP. This could have caused them to not perceive the situation the same as the first officer.


24 posted on 10/11/2016 1:26:47 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Paladin2

The ? you asked is 96 alot. My reply shows that yes it is.


25 posted on 10/11/2016 1:27:27 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Support Trump/Pence in 2016!)
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To: rlmorel

Yeah let’s just shoot everybody who acts weird. *rolls eyes*


26 posted on 10/11/2016 1:27:53 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Gamecock

“This one goes to 11”.


27 posted on 10/11/2016 1:30:39 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: jimwatx
...but that is not a factor here...

It could have gone physical in the blink of an eye. The officer was already well inside of the 21' range where a suspect with a knife can cause fatal injury without reaction time for an officer to draw and fire. The drawn weapon was totally justified and within TPD procedures. Put that together with a reach back into a vehicle and that adds up to way beyond nervous.

28 posted on 10/11/2016 1:31:55 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

A drugged out felon with a gun not listening to police orders to stand down - that’s far different that being subjected to police harassment for doing nothing.


29 posted on 10/11/2016 1:35:31 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: T-Bird45

Many of the people I grew uo with are cops. I talked to one about this particular case and he begrudgingly admitted that yeah, this was probably an unnecessary and bad shoot. This officer inj this case was psychologically unsuited for police work.


30 posted on 10/11/2016 1:36:46 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Paladin2

My opinion, Any PCP is too much. It’s a disgusting drug that causes unpredictable and violent reactions due to drug psychosis.


31 posted on 10/11/2016 1:37:36 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: 1Old Pro
A drugged out felon with a gun...

subjected to police harassment for doing nothing.

Crutcher was on drugs but had no gun so I'm not sure what your point is in this comment about harassment for doing nothing.

32 posted on 10/11/2016 1:38:42 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: jimwatx

Here’s an officer with a different opinion:

http://lawofficer.com/2016/09/detectivetulsa/


33 posted on 10/11/2016 1:41:05 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: jimwatx

Hey, I don’t know you at all, but here is a suggestion: why don’t we have a real discussion without resorting to histrionics. I treated your response with respect, try doing the same for mine.

Let me ask you a simple question: In this encounter, before the taser and bullet was fired, who do you think was in greater peril: the Police officers, or the black man they stopped?

What is your impression?


34 posted on 10/11/2016 1:47:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: T-Bird45

Look there is no doubt the guy acted strange and this put the officers on edge. No weapon was ever displayed. This was a perfect example of when a tazer is best utilized. The officer way over reacted, as most reasonable people would surmise. Give it a rest.


35 posted on 10/11/2016 1:48:47 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: T-Bird45

What was he doing that required his death?


36 posted on 10/11/2016 1:51:37 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rlmorel

Your perspective of this (in my mind at least) is so ridiculous it’s hard for me to take you seriously. If a cop takes a life, they better have a reasonable reason to do so, and in this case I can’t see it at all.


37 posted on 10/11/2016 1:51:58 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

Will you answer my question: Whose life was in more danger from a base perspective: The police or the black man they stopped? Can you answer that?


38 posted on 10/11/2016 1:53:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: T-Bird45
Is this the guy that had turned his life around, and was singing at church?

He seems to have taken a turn back.

39 posted on 10/11/2016 1:54:17 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Randy Larsen

I agree based on your post. The post was helpful as I have no direct knowledge, nor do I want to personally explore the doseage space.


40 posted on 10/11/2016 2:00:11 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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