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Are you at risk from solar storms?
daileymail ^ | 10/17/17 | Stacy Liberatore

Posted on 10/17/2016 7:50:14 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt

First map showing areas in the US at risk of solar storms has been released Experts looked at two factors, one being data from geomagnetic storms The other was data from magnetic materials beneath the Earth's surface Map reveals Minnesota and Wisconsin are at the highest risk in the US But more than half the US hasn't been surveyed due to a lack of funds

Solar storms threaten Earth about every 100 years and experts warn we are overdue

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; History; Science
KEYWORDS: emp; fud; hype; prepper; preppers; scaretactics; solarstorm
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To: a fool in paradise
Do you depend on electricity for lighting, heat, cooking, getting information, purchasing gasoline, pumping water, pumping sewage, keeping foods at the market stocked and safe, a hospital for medical services. Any of that? An EMP ends most of that in a fraction of a second and takes years to repair.
21 posted on 10/17/2016 8:58:09 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Recent CME aimed away from the earth.

Click the link to watch a large coronal mass ejection that just happened in the last few days. Had it been earth directed, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

22 posted on 10/17/2016 9:04:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

So, before I say good night, WHY DON’T WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THE TAX CODE TO DEDUCT EMP PREPAREDNESS FROM INDIVIDUAL INCOME AND CORPORATE REVENUE??? THAT WAY, UTILITIES ESPECIALLY COULD HARDEN THE GRID AGAINST IT!!!

OK, good night.


23 posted on 10/17/2016 9:11:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
" Minnesota and Wisconsin"

Isn't that where the military has it's HARP base?

24 posted on 10/17/2016 9:13:20 PM PDT by matthew fuller ( Putrefaction is what the Clintons brought to America. The fly is their perfect symbol.)
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To: LucyT

I have an umbrella.

I’m good.


25 posted on 10/17/2016 9:34:06 PM PDT by Salamander (More deplorable than deplorable...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Somewhere else on FR, I think I read that Obama signed *ANOTHER* Executive Order, this time dealing with Carrington-event type stuff.

Only problem is, the sun is going quiescent, and, even though there is the occasional strong solar storm when the sunspots are about to go blank, usually the Sun is very quiet on the whole when there is a solar minimum.

HOWEVER, it was also announced the North Korea had a failed ICBM launch this weekend.

Coincidence?

26 posted on 10/17/2016 9:48:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859


27 posted on 10/17/2016 9:58:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Judging by related events, is it possible we could face an orchestrated EMP event that cripples the USA within 120 days during the depth of winter?
Would that have a dire impact on our population, economy, military capability and eliminate our country as a future threat to global governance ambitions?

Predictive programming directed by gov’t-MSM complex:

1. After years of the House and Senate discussing how fragile our power infrastructure is vulnerable to collapse from an EMP or solar storm, gov’t & power industry form a commission for further study.

05/19/16 - latest gov’t news:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/government-industry-studying-threat-nuclear-emp-attack-electric-grid/

2. Obola signs an “Space Weather” Executive Order three weeks before the contentious critical 2016 election:

10/13/16 - http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-obama-orders-government-plan-space-weather-chaos-n665801

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/10/12/preparing-nation-space-weather-new-executive-order

*Note, the Exec Order addresses restoring electrical infrastructure and requires agency roles assignments within the next 60 - 120 days.

3. 4 days later, media hype now promotes an actual map identifying the “most vulnerable” state and power grid weak points.

10/17/16 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3844720/Are-risk-solar-storms-Map-reveals-Minnesota-worst-hit-blasts-knock-power-millions.html

4. Defense related site predicts dramatically reduced population and economy by 2025.
*look at the Forecast 2025 section indicating US pop of 61M, corresponding fallen economic stats, defense spending and impending Low-No order trend that starts in Q1 2017 and flat-lines into the next decade.

Starting Q1 2017 -
http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

Does the astounding amount of in-your-face corruption and collusion between leftists, RINOs, gov’t, FBI, DOJ and mainstream media show the degree of treachery and treason these people are capable of?

God help us.


28 posted on 10/17/2016 10:08:56 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: grey_whiskers; All

See post 28 re: 10/13/16 “Space weather” Executive Order.


29 posted on 10/17/2016 10:11:58 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: ETL

Don’t know about the Earth’s magnetic field, but the Sun’s magnetic activity has been observed to be decreasing significantly for several decades.


30 posted on 10/18/2016 4:03:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That would be a defense budget thing but maybe you forgot the sarc tag. Actually electric companies are private but they are regulated so they could be required to prep for it. That would have been something to do 50 years ago. If they did it now, our “electric rates would necessarily skyrocket”.

Newt Gingrich brought this solar flare/emp issue up several years ago. Maybe more like 20 years. Gave a nice speech to congress. They nodded their heads and ignored it I guess. They all get to hide in bunkers under a mountain while the world goes mad max so they’re not worried.

The very large transformers at electrical sub-stations are built on-demand and it takes months to build just one. That’s WITH infrastructure in place. You know, things like electricity, 18 wheelers, trains.

Yup, Carrington set telegraph stations on fire and burnt a lot of telegraph lines up and that was fairly thick stuff. All our little gadgets with micro circuits would be toast which includes most vehicles and pretty much all computer stuff, which runs the world these days. Imagine the horror of a million i-phones crapping out all at once.

Military equipment in those metal cases with rounded corners.....designed like that for a reason. I wonder if the new plastic cases are of any use.

“Jericho” is a cool little mini series about emp aftermath but “The Road” is probably more accurate.

The best vehicle would be an old mechanical injection diesel simply because diesel stores better than gas but even an old coil/points gas engine might survive. A lot depends on the shape of the hood. Old trucks with hoods that wrap downwards are best. This stuff comes straight down like rain. A flat hood with seams between hood and fender that face the sky won’t do as well. A vehicle under a metal shed might do pretty well. Bicycles are safe and require 40% of the energy of walking. Horses and donkeys are emp proof but you have too feed them. Might need to eat them at some point too.

You can build a faraday cage for small stuff like radios. Microwave ovens are supposed to make good shields. I’ve got a handheld scanner wrapped in foil and inside of but touching the metal of an ammo box. Don’t know if there’d be anything to listen to. A small handlheld ham transceiver would be good to have, if not a full size. Need a way to power that stuff.

Yup, solar flare or EMP will be a real blast. We just got elec power brought onto our property a few months ago. Would be a shame to lose it now.

The End is Near. Did ya bring a book to read?


31 posted on 10/18/2016 4:10:45 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
It bears repeating that the last solar storm to do any real damage was back in the days of the telegraph. The early telegraph involved using batteries over miles and miles of cable to "click" the receivers. They were, thus, contrary to public opinion, very low current devices. Small voltage irregularities could damage them.

Your homes are protected from much of this with very high current transformers. By their very nature, transformers also limit high frequency spikes from entering your home. There also is lightning protection built into power and copper phone lines which also protects your home. These limit the likely damage from outside spikes, and the short wire lengths and circuitous wire paths inside the home limit most inductive coupling to the solar storm events. Of all the things to worry about, put this one low on your list.

32 posted on 10/18/2016 5:08:08 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (always)
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To: Myrddin

None of that matters because (A) I am a renter and (B) I work for a computer company.

No electricity no income, no income no home.

Big picture sucks.


33 posted on 10/18/2016 5:38:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (A rigged debate is a rigged election. More was made of the "Twenty-One" gameshow scandal.)
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To: Myrddin

None of that matters because (A) I am a renter and (B) I work for a computer company.

No electricity no income, no income no home.

Big picture sucks.


34 posted on 10/18/2016 5:38:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (A rigged debate is a rigged election. More was made of the "Twenty-One" gameshow scandal.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-solar-decliningwhat.html

“he solar cycle is the periodic change in the Sun’s activity and appearance like changes in the number of sunspots. It has an average duration of about 11 years. The current solar cycle began on in January 2008, with minimal activity until early 2010. The sun is now on track to have the lowest recorded sunspot activity since accurate records began in 1750. The long-term decline in solar activity set in after the last grand solar maximum peaked in 1956.

But according to Collado-Vega, the current minimum in the number of sunspots doesn’t mean that the sun won’t show us its violent nature in the coming years.

“There is a development for coronal holes, due to the reconfiguration of the sun’s magnetic field, that bear the well-known high-speed streams. These high-speed streams have the ability to cause strong geomagnetic storms at Earth, and changes to the radiation environment in the inner magnetosphere,” Collado-Vega noted.”


35 posted on 10/18/2016 6:06:38 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

That’s cool how the sun can make straight lines and 90 degree angles.


36 posted on 10/18/2016 7:11:15 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: DuncanWaring

“Earth’s magnetic field, which protects the planet from huge blasts of deadly solar radiation, has been weakening over the past six months, according to data collected by a European Space Agency (ESA) satellite array called Swarm.

The biggest weak spots in the magnetic field — which extends 370,000 miles (600,000 kilometers) above the planet’s surface — have sprung up over the Western Hemisphere, while the field has strengthened over areas like the southern Indian Ocean, according to the magnetometers onboard the Swarm satellites — three separate satellites floating in tandem.

The scientists who conducted the study are still unsure why the magnetic field is weakening, but one likely reason is that Earth’s magnetic poles are getting ready to flip, said Rune Floberghagen, the ESA’s Swarm mission manager. In fact, the data suggest magnetic north is moving toward Siberia.

“Such a flip is not instantaneous, but would take many hundred if not a few thousand years,” Floberghagen told Live Science. “They have happened many times in the past.”

Scientists already know that magnetic north shifts. Once every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles flip so that a compass would point south instead of north. While changes in magnetic field strength are part of this normal flipping cycle, data from Swarm have shown the field is starting to weaken faster than in the past.

Previously, researchers estimated the field was weakening about 5 percent per century, but the new data revealed the field is actually weakening at 5 percent per decade, or 10 times faster than thought. As such, rather than the full flip occurring in about 2,000 years, as was predicted, the new data suggest it could happen sooner.

Floberghagen hopes that more data from Swarm will shed light on why the field is weakening faster now.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/earths-magnetic-field-is-weakening-10-times-faster/


37 posted on 10/18/2016 8:03:00 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Solar activity is declining—what to expect

August 17, 2015

Is Earth slowly heading for a new ice age? Looking at the decreasing number of sunspots, it may seem that we are entering a nearly spotless solar cycle which could result in lower temperatures for decades. “The solar cycle is starting to decline. Now we have less active regions visible on the sun’s disk,” Yaireska M. Collado-Vega, a space weather forecaster at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, told Phys.org.

But does it really mean a colder climate for our planet in the near future? In 1645, the so-called Maunder Minimum period started, when there were almost no sunspots. It lasted for 70 years and coincided with the well-known “Little Ice Age”, when Europe and North America experienced lower-than-average temperatures. However, the theory that decreased solar activity caused the climate change is still controversial as no convincing evidence has been shown to prove this correlation.

Helen Popova, a Lomonosov Moscow State University researcher predicts that if the existing theories about the impact of solar activity on the climate are true, then this minimum will lead to a significant cooling, similar to the one during the Maunder Minimum period. She recently developed a unique physical-mathematical model of the evolution of the magnetic activity of the sun and used it to gain the patterns of occurrence of global minima of solar activity and gave them a physical interpretation.

“Given that our future minimum will last for at least three solar cycles, which is about 30 years, it is possible that the lowering of the temperature will not be as deep as during the Maunder Minimum,” Popova said earlier in July. “But we will have to examine it in detail. We keep in touch with climatologists from different countries. We plan to work in this direction.”

The solar cycle is the periodic change in the Sun’s activity and appearance like changes in the number of sunspots. It has an average duration of about 11 years. The current solar cycle began on in January 2008, with minimal activity until early 2010. The sun is now on track to have the lowest recorded sunspot activity since accurate records began in 1750. The long-term decline in solar activity set in after the last grand solar maximum peaked in 1956.

But according to Collado-Vega, the current minimum in the number of sunspots doesn’t mean that the sun won’t show us its violent nature in the coming years.

“There is a development for coronal holes, due to the reconfiguration of the sun’s magnetic field, that bear the well-known high-speed streams. These high-speed streams have the ability to cause strong geomagnetic storms at Earth, and changes to the radiation environment in the inner magnetosphere,” Collado-Vega noted.

Coronal holes are regions with lower density and temperatures in the sun’s outer atmosphere, known as the corona. The sun contains magnetic fields that arch away from areas in the corona that are very thin due to the lower levels of energy and gas, which cause coronal holes to appear when they do not fall back. Thus, solar particles or solar wind escape and create a lower density and lower temperature in that area.

The existing fleet of spacecraft studying the sun includes the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) and the Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory (STEREO), which provide continuous solar observations that are currently enhancing our knowledge about sun’s corona. And if that’s not enough, a new NASA probe named Solar Probe Plus is being developed to revolutionize our understanding of solar phenomena. Significantly, the mission, with a planned launch in mid-2018, will fly closer to the sun than any previous spacecraft. Its primary science goals are to trace the flow of energy and understand the heating of the solar corona and to explore the physical mechanisms that accelerate the solar wind and energetic particles. This would definitely improve future solar activity forecasts and help us more accurately predict the impact that the features on the sun have on our planet.

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-solar-decliningwhat.html#jCp

38 posted on 10/18/2016 8:06:09 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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To: ETL

Note that the physical phenomenon that leads to cooling when sunspot activity declines can be replicated in a laboratory with the appropriate apparatus; it doesn’t rely on unvalidated computer models.


39 posted on 10/18/2016 8:11:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Here is a much better link;

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/help/what-is-a-coronal-mass-ejection-cme


40 posted on 10/18/2016 3:20:54 PM PDT by TMSuchman (Tis time to feed the Tree of Liberty again!!)
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