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For Microsoft Windows, it's do or die
Business Insider ^ | )ct 23, 2016 | Matt Weinberger

Posted on 10/23/2016 8:29:45 PM PDT by dayglored

Microsoft is set to unveil a bunch of new hardware on Wednesday, with the star attraction likely to be a new Surface PC to compete with Apple's all-in-one iMac.

Microsoft is billing this event as the future of Windows 10. That's not surprising: The reason Microsoft got into the Surface business in the first place was to push Windows forward into a touchscreen future, whether PC manufacturers wanted it or not.

But we're fast approaching a moment in time where Microsoft is going to have to do more than introduce new kinds of PCs if it wants Windows, first introduced in 1985, to stay relevant for the next three decades.

The PC industry is shrinking and Windows is increasingly irrelevant in a mobile world ruled by Apple's iOS and Google's Android. Even worse, Microsoft's own attempts to break into the smartphone realm have landed with a resounding "thud," exacerbating the slow decline of the Windows business (fortunately for Microsoft, its cloud and productivity businesses are exploding, propelling the company's stock to new highs).

It's gotten to the point where some, like Infoworld Editor-in-Chief Eric Knorr, have openly wondered whether it would be best if Microsoft put Windows out to pasture now, rather than let it bleed out slowly over the next few years as the world passes it on by.

[...lots more at the link...]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

I loved XP and I love Windows 7. Absolutely hate Windows 10.


41 posted on 10/23/2016 10:33:47 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: dayglored

I didnt think nt4 was too hard to use.


42 posted on 10/23/2016 10:34:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Luke21
> I loved XP and I love Windows 7. Absolutely hate Windows 10.

I found "Classic Shell" to be invaluable in making Win 10 usable. I can now tolerate it quite well, at least for most standard tasks. (It's required at work, and I have it at home because I work from home....)

43 posted on 10/23/2016 10:36:33 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
> I didnt think nt4 was too hard to use.

In the mid-90's it was quite good. I disliked the fact that they forced the Win95 GUI over it (I started working with NT at version 3.5). But as a server OS it was surprisingly good.

As long as you don't count UNIX or VAX/VMS, that is. But since they didn't do Windows networking... :-)

44 posted on 10/23/2016 10:39:17 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: TomGuy

Ditto. Left the corporate scene after Win 3.1 and went into fixing PCs. Now entering 4th decade of home/business M$ involvement. Can’t say it’s been bad.


45 posted on 10/23/2016 11:02:55 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: dayglored

On the Microsoft end of things, I started with MS-DOS 5. DOS 6 had a compression feature that I was adventurous enough to use. I was excited to get Windows 3 and at my job at the time they had the Workgroups version of Windows 3 and then Windows 95. I liked Windows NT, Windows XP and Windows 7. It seems to be hard for Microsoft to understand that some of us still use and need desktop computers and we don’t want the operating system to be like something you see on a phone or tablet.


46 posted on 10/23/2016 11:28:40 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: dayglored

Good luck with that, Microshaft. I’ll be using 7 in a VM in Linux before I buy any of the new crap they’re trying to make stick to the wall.


47 posted on 10/23/2016 11:30:12 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: doorgunner69
I recall being in Vegas for whatever that big electronics show was,

That might have been COMDEX. One year I commuted for three days to COMDEX from southern CA. Cheap flights.

What a klutz company, now trying to boost 10 up by coercing users that do not do "touch" crap?

Yes. I now think of Microsoft as an unethical company. However, I don't mind Windows 10, except for its privacy violations, and I use Shut Up 10 (https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10) to minimize that problem. 10 has been perfectly stable.

48 posted on 10/23/2016 11:49:23 PM PDT by TChad
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To: dayglored

Sorry guys, I’m still trying to get Vista to work.


49 posted on 10/23/2016 11:50:14 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: dayglored

Agree 100%

Although Microsoft tried to force me on to Windows 10. It jacked up my computer ever since it happened 3 months ago.

Apple will release their ne computers on Thursday. I’m going to get an Apple this time. Done with Microsoft.


50 posted on 10/24/2016 12:44:01 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Secret Agent Man
Win95 was too. The first where the GUI and graphic user inter-phase were integrated was Win98.

I began using Linux in 1994. The GUI is still separate, you can choose one or several inter-phases. I love XFCE GUI. Have been using it since Redhat 8.0 came out. It was not part of the package, I added it.

Over the past 10 years, it is rare that I use a Windows OS.

I almost never have a system hangup and have never had a Malware exploit.

51 posted on 10/24/2016 3:28:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: ThunderSleeps
Anyone remember CPM-86

My first PC ran CPM-86. It was a British machine ( at the moment, senility is winning and I can't remember the manufacturer!) [I just looked it up - Amstrad!], used a 3" floppy (Sony design) and first introduced me to the marvel of spreadsheets. I think we bought it at Sears for about $350.

52 posted on 10/24/2016 3:44:44 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: fuente

Do you want to sell it? I’m serious.


53 posted on 10/24/2016 3:49:30 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: dayglored

Microsoft automatically updated my desktop to Windows 10 with the new browser Microsoft Edge which won’t open so I have to reroute everything back to Outlook Express. What a hassle.


54 posted on 10/24/2016 4:18:48 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: ThunderSleeps
Ubuntu's unity mess.

I'm using 16.10 without touch. Seems fine to me. Set my VPN up last night. Easy. I run Mint 18 and 16.10 on an early I5 laptop. Both setup and run fast. I do prefer the feel of Cinnamon but boot up is way slower on Mint.

55 posted on 10/24/2016 4:36:24 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Salamander
2000 Pro was.

Yup. It took three service packs to get XP right.
56 posted on 10/24/2016 4:39:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dayglored

August 24, 1995. At the Windows 95 launch, I was living in Louisville, KY. Three computer geek friends and I drove up to Cincinnati for the unveiling.

Now I’m a Win 7 forever person. Does everything I want and need. No reason to upgrade. Ever.


57 posted on 10/24/2016 5:03:43 AM PDT by upchuck (Trump to the White House!! Hillary to the Big House!! h/t Jim Robinson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
XP was the greatest OS ever.

Still using it. Albeit for offline functions only but it is still a great OS.

58 posted on 10/24/2016 5:15:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: upchuck

That’s what I’m running. I like 7. I think what screws up most product changes is the involvement of “human factors” experts who feel a need to screw with operations that don’t need screwing.....


59 posted on 10/24/2016 5:17:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dayglored

Windows real value is in its for-business line, rather than personal. Windows can’t be all things, to all people, at all times. If MS keeps going with this push to the touchscreens, to the exclusion of the desktop, it will become completely irrelevant very quickly. The Surface is a mobile device, with limited usability. What office admin wants that headache?


60 posted on 10/24/2016 5:49:28 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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