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For Microsoft Windows, it's do or die
Business Insider ^ | )ct 23, 2016 | Matt Weinberger

Posted on 10/23/2016 8:29:45 PM PDT by dayglored

Microsoft is set to unveil a bunch of new hardware on Wednesday, with the star attraction likely to be a new Surface PC to compete with Apple's all-in-one iMac.

Microsoft is billing this event as the future of Windows 10. That's not surprising: The reason Microsoft got into the Surface business in the first place was to push Windows forward into a touchscreen future, whether PC manufacturers wanted it or not.

But we're fast approaching a moment in time where Microsoft is going to have to do more than introduce new kinds of PCs if it wants Windows, first introduced in 1985, to stay relevant for the next three decades.

The PC industry is shrinking and Windows is increasingly irrelevant in a mobile world ruled by Apple's iOS and Google's Android. Even worse, Microsoft's own attempts to break into the smartphone realm have landed with a resounding "thud," exacerbating the slow decline of the Windows business (fortunately for Microsoft, its cloud and productivity businesses are exploding, propelling the company's stock to new highs).

It's gotten to the point where some, like Infoworld Editor-in-Chief Eric Knorr, have openly wondered whether it would be best if Microsoft put Windows out to pasture now, rather than let it bleed out slowly over the next few years as the world passes it on by.

[...lots more at the link...]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Gaffer

I can’t praise Win 7 enough. Has everything I need.

I’ve had updates turned off since day 1 and have never had a problem.

MSFT can stuff Win 10.


61 posted on 10/24/2016 5:53:57 AM PDT by upchuck (Trump to the White House!! Hillary to the Big House!! h/t Jim Robinson)
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To: Windflier
They have the viewpoint that they know what their customers need and want, better than their customers do. It’s a totalitarian mindset that has irked me for a very long time.

It's worse than that. They have the attitude that, although you may have signed the check to buy the hardware, it really belongs to them. They'll give you the "user experience" they want to give you on what is (according to their way of thinking) their computer.

62 posted on 10/24/2016 6:11:13 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: upchuck

I updated up until they dropped that stealth Win10 service pack. I had to hunt for that downloaded update and deleted it. Then I stopped updating.

Look through the downloaded update list for the KB3035583 and KB2976978 updates.

Right click each update and click Uninstall.


63 posted on 10/24/2016 6:20:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Windflier

MS tried that when they first introduced Word/Excel. They were so proprietary that they would not even talk (convert) with other similar programs. Corporate users balked and told them 'make it compatible with the other major software or cram it up your rear.' It took a while but MS got the message -- until they basically ran the competitor programs out of business.


64 posted on 10/24/2016 6:51:28 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: fuente

What don’t you like about it? I have a Surface 3. It’s the least expensive, and frustratingly slow sometimes. Got a Surface pen for my birthday. Very disappointed with that. I don’t draw, so it’s kind of useless, really. But the Surface is good for doing presentations.


65 posted on 10/24/2016 7:36:19 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Excellence

Mine continuously freezes and they have virtually no memory. Voice and facial recognition are horrible. It has difficulty determining whether it is in touch mode or keypad mode. Auto correct in touch mode often causes spurious word insertion and doubling of words, and the touch feature to correct the words only will highlight and delete the word...very frustrating to do anything in touch mode. Often the touch mode keyboard covers the text boxes when typing not allowing you to see what is actually being typed. All of these are painful but the freezing over and over and over again are just the worst.


66 posted on 10/24/2016 7:59:40 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t have an update list because I don’t accept any updates from MSFT. Updates are turned off.

And, I’m on a metered connection. MSFT updates would cost me $$.

I think the days of MSFT trying to force Win 7 users to upgrade to Win 10 are over. Nevertheless, I run GWX Control Panel to prevent those downloads


67 posted on 10/24/2016 9:44:04 AM PDT by upchuck (Trump to the White House!! Hillary to the Big House!! h/t Jim Robinson)
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To: dayglored

#38 In Control Panel> Personalization you can choose the “Windows Classic” theme and it then will look like XP.


68 posted on 10/24/2016 11:45:53 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ConservativeMind
Also, Microsoft abandons EVERYTHING. Why do I want to buy obsolete?

If only it were that simple.

Win 10 is not only a do-everything nightmare, that's only 10% of the disaster.

I wonder how many trillions$ of hardware and expensive software it made utterly useless!

Bricks and unusable PAID FOR software!

69 posted on 10/24/2016 11:50:59 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911
Maybe this is a good time to repeat my complaint/wish list...

Give me a solid, glitch-free and reliable BASIC, like the awesome HP basic on their HP80 desktop machines, run by a modern microprocessor 100 times as fast as in the late80s/early90s and I'd be in heaven.

There was no scientific or engineering problem I could not solve with programs I wrote myself!

Why this hasn't happened, I have no clue.

70 posted on 10/24/2016 11:58:21 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: upchuck
Now I’m a Win 7 forever person. Does everything I want and need. No reason to upgrade. Ever.

I feel the same way, but Win10 blew away my Win7 Pro; gone forever.

Why upgrade?

Modern software.
Like Adobe Acrobat, simple photo software, GoogleEarth and lots more programs no longer available that I bought and can no longer use...

71 posted on 10/24/2016 12:19:46 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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