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Four major cities move to ban diesel vehicles by 2025
BBC ^ | 2 December 2016 | Matt McGrath

Posted on 12/03/2016 6:53:28 AM PST by moose07

The leaders of four major global cities say they will stop the use of all diesel-powered cars and trucks by the middle of the next decade.

The mayors of Paris, Mexico City, Madrid and Athens say they are implementing the ban to improve air quality.

They say they will give incentives for alternative vehicle use and promote walking and cycling.

The commitments were made in Mexico at a biennial meeting of city leaders.

The use of diesel in transport has come under increasing scrutiny in recent years, as concerns about its impact on air quality have grown. The World Health Organization (WHO) says that around three million deaths every year are linked to exposure to outdoor air pollution.

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Diesel engines contribute to the problem in two key ways - through the production of particulate matter (PM) and nitrogen oxides (NOx). Very fine soot PM can penetrate the lungs and can contribute to cardiovascular illness and death.

Nitrogen oxides can help form ground level ozone and this can exacerbate breathing difficulties, even for people without a history of respiratory problems.

As the evidence has mounted, environmental groups have used the courts to try and enforce clear air standards and regulations. In the UK, campaigners have recently had success in forcing the government to act more quickly.

Now, mayors from a number of major cities with well known air quality problems have decided to use their authority to clamp down on the use of diesel.

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To: moose07

It’s mexico. Just bribe the right cops, enforcers,licence plate bureau drones, and your problem goes away.


21 posted on 12/03/2016 7:22:42 AM PST by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: patro

There we go,that didn’t take long. :)

“Gasoline is a solvent “
Volatile organic compound! Run for the hills.


22 posted on 12/03/2016 7:24:27 AM PST by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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To: alloysteel

The technology exists and is not expensive for clean diesel. The biggest obstacle is government regulation retarding any new ideas and implementation.


23 posted on 12/03/2016 7:24:54 AM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: alloysteel

The technology exists and is not expensive for clean diesel. The biggest obstacle is government regulation retarding any new ideas and implementation.


24 posted on 12/03/2016 7:25:13 AM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: moose07

LOL. True true. Gasoline is good for cleaning parts!


25 posted on 12/03/2016 7:30:14 AM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: moose07

So what is the plan? Natural Gas trucks? Fuel Cell trucks? I would like to know. Not all diesel is dirty fuel and diesel cars get high gas mileage. On top of that, diesel is less reactive than gasoline is.


26 posted on 12/03/2016 7:32:56 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: moose07

Municipal buses will be exempt...


27 posted on 12/03/2016 7:38:37 AM PST by null and void ( If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: moose07

The higher energy density of diesel also means that burning a gallon of diesel emits more greenhouse gases than burning a gallon of gasoline—about 15 percent more, to be specific. But due to the appreciable fuel-economy savings of deisel, diesel cars usually emit less of these gases per mile driven. The Union of Concerned Scientists, who did this study, recommends that estmates of fuel use be revised so a diesel vehicle’s miles-per-gallon rating go downward by 20 percent in order to get a more accurate picture of the overall impact on oil consumption.

Plainly speaking, because of the less use of deisel due to mileage offsets, less is consumed and put back into the air. Gasoline enginers side by side produce higher emission problems.

red


28 posted on 12/03/2016 7:40:19 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Morpheus2009

This subject is clearly going to be the stimulus for an awful lot of debate.
I will be keeping a weather eye on it ,for sure.
If anything comes up, i’ll either post it or ping it out as deemed sensible.


29 posted on 12/03/2016 7:42:16 AM PST by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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To: null and void

There will be a long list of exemptions, you can see it coming.
Enough to render the whole thing nonsense.


30 posted on 12/03/2016 7:44:28 AM PST by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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To: Morpheus2009

It would include airliners? All airliners run on jet a. Which is basically diesel fuel or kerosene. Except the airliners don’t have any exhaust system to trap particulates or gasses. So they definitely should ban airliners!


31 posted on 12/03/2016 7:44:45 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: moose07
Here's the problem: in Europe, diesel-powered cars lack the selective catalytic reduction (SCR) system to help reduce NOx emissions. And many of them don't have functioning diesel particulate filters, either.

In short, the European cities didn't take the route of Japan and eventually USA, where taxis and many buses switched to clean-burning compressed natural gas to reduce air pollution. I wouldn't be surprised that you'll see all taxis in Europe switch to fueled by CNG over the next 10-15 years.

32 posted on 12/03/2016 7:46:51 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: bert

I really wish VAG hadn’t fornicated the pooch on diesels in the U.S. MB and BMW seem to be doing it right, but VW and Audi were making them available in a wider range of vehicles. U.S. diesels from them are dead for a long time.


33 posted on 12/03/2016 7:47:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: bert

Rolling coal here as well , old Mercedes 300D, 5.9L Cummins Ram 2500 and a Cummins 4BT in my 88 Toyota pickup..... I like diesel. Guessing I won’t be driving to these countries soon...


34 posted on 12/03/2016 7:48:47 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: null and void

In ATL, all or almost all of the MARTA bus fleet is already running on CNG, and this is for economic reasons. Yay, fracking and cheap natural gas!


35 posted on 12/03/2016 7:52:02 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: moose07

Banning diesels to make people walk and drive bicycles is discriminatory to the disabled. Maybe these bunglecrats need to walk everywhere they want to go also.

Diesel engines and propane engines are the only ones for allowed underground and indoors work.


36 posted on 12/03/2016 7:53:26 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: RayChuang88

DPFs became mandatory in 2009.
The SCR would certainly remove the issue.
The CNG that is currently available gives a lot of people headaches, myself included.


37 posted on 12/03/2016 7:54:36 AM PST by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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To: PilotDave
Note that the likes of GE Aero Engines, Rolls-Royce, and Pratt & Whitney have been working on reducing harmful exhaust emission from jet engines for at least since the late 1960's. Modern high-bypass engines with their advanced compressor stage design and advanced combustor designs emit far less emissions than jet engines dating from the 1960's and 1970's; the modern CFM International LEAP (Leading Edge Aviation Propulsion) engine and the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G PurePower engine both emit way less harmful emissions than even their immediate predecessors, the CFM56 and IAE V2500.
38 posted on 12/03/2016 7:55:23 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Squantos

I like your style!

I strongly considered a TDI for my last vehicle purchase, but I know my personal driving style too well, and need better top end punch, say from 60-80.


39 posted on 12/03/2016 7:55:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: moose07

T.Boone Pickens has recommended diesel trucks switch to natural gas.


40 posted on 12/03/2016 8:02:21 AM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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