Posted on 02/13/2018 6:12:01 AM PST by Bull Snipe
“They were not considered people in terms of having rights and needing services and protections from the government.”
Just to be clear, what you have written was the view of northern slave states at the time the constitution was written. The southern slave states view was that slaves should be counted as full persons for the purposes of representation in Congress. No states at the time proposed that slaves vote. No states at the time proposed that women vote.
Yep. Otherwise it would have been the Republic of Virginia and Company
There’s a reason why scum like Bill Ayers went into teaching teachers.
Have you ever read School of Darkness by Bella Dodd? He is a PDF link: http://www.americandeception.com/index.php?action=downloadpdf&photo=PDFsml_AD/The_School_Of_Darkness-Bella_V_Dodd-1963-274pgs-COM.sml.pdf
Typical Hollywood: it’s the War Between the Damn Yankees and the Americans
There are a lot of folks right here on FR that think the civil war was about slavery. I’m about ready to give up trying to explain things to them.
It was about control of the future of the country. The NE’erners won.
Look at Lincoln’s 2nd cabinet. THERE are the winners.
A lot of the folks of the time thought the Civil War was about slavery too.
Just to be clear, that was the view of the southern slave states as well. Slaves in their borders were property and not people, they had no rights, and no need of Congressional representation.
Kids nowadays are bad at math, reading, spelling, English, and most of all history.
Just ask employers in this country why they have to educate their new employees before they start working at their jobs.
But, on the other hand, these young kids know where their safe spaces are, know their "feelings", know how to navigate around Facebook, Instagram and Snap-chat but not Excel, Word or Quickbooks and understand little of what they'll need out in the real world to get and keep and job.
History about slavery? Most only know what the demcRATS and BLM folks preach to them. Schools didn't get that far.
Nor do schools teach that slavery is alive and well today in some countries in Africa—blacks owned by other blacks. (And Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Jeremiah Wright are not protesting it.)
They also don’t teach that we are slaves to the U.S. government until about a third of the way through the year—Tax Freedom Day.
They don’t teach about the racial incidence of violent crime in America, nor the incidence of welfare and other transfer payments, with the attendant burden on society and drag on the economy.
A lot of things aren’t taught in government schools. However, government schools may be found teaching LGBQTXYZ and other drivel.
Maybe because our country was built in part by indentured servants, that is, people who submitted to slavery for a fixed period of time in return for a stake to start the remainder of their lives. Most of them were Caucasian, served their time, and got on with their lives. 6 generations later, the Blacks brought over as slaves and released during the Civil War are still struggling to get on with their lives. It may not matter so much today, as the Globalists are working to economically enslave Sovereignists and Globalist minions with its ‘social justice’ meme while dumbing down the remaining generations attending public schools.
A few years into maybe when Lincoln needed more public support. It was about control, fed trumps states.
“Just to be clear, that was the view of the southern slave states as well. Slaves in their borders were property and not people, they had no rights, and no need of Congressional representation.”
I never like to disagree with you in public, but I will a little just this once.
The southern state view was that slaves needed to be counted as full humans for the purposes of representation in Congress. No state, north or south, proposed having slaves vote for the person representing them in Congress. And no state, north or south, proposed at the time having women vote for the person representing them in Congress.
I am so glad the north didn’t decide to begin killing their neighbors before the adoption of the 19th amendment was adopted peacefully.
Public schools were a cesspool for the last 15 years, or more. Hopefully, the Trump Education Secretary Davis can help rectify some of it.
If I had school age children, which I do not, there is no way in hell I would send them to public school! Home Schooling, or Christian school would be best choice. Those interested in sports and arts/music would flourish in right Christian school. Sacrifice of $$ would be worth avoiding the teachings of the past decade!
“It was fought to preserve slavery, so the statement is correct.”
That is an interesting comment.
If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?
Any mention of the Morgenthau Plan or the Yalta Agreement? They both contain provisions for slave labor. But we would not want to sully FDR’s reputation.
It was about slavery. The Southern leaders of the time said so.
Prior to the rebellion? The Republicans were working to limit the expansion of slavery, which diluted the influence of the slave states. Something that they didn't want. As a part of the rebellion? The elimination of slavery was not part of the North's reason for fighting the war the South had begun. The North fought because the South started it, and the goal was the ending of the rebellion. What steps that were taken against slavery, the Emancipation Proclamation for example, were only taken on because they aided in putting down the rebellion. The 13th Amendment came about during the war but was never the driving reason why the North fought.
You're too modest. Being disagreeable is what you live for.
The southern state view was that slaves needed to be counted as full humans for the purposes of representation in Congress.
Why?
No state, north or south, proposed having slaves vote for the person representing them in Congress. And no state, north or south, proposed at the time having women vote for the person representing them in Congress.
And yet there was no disagreement about counting women and children for purposes of allocating representation in Congress. Could it be because it wasn't a matter of whether they could vote not but instead a question of whether they were property or not?
am so glad the north didn’t decide to begin killing their neighbors before the adoption of the 19th amendment was adopted peacefully.
Was the South planning on rebelling again over that?
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