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Molly Ringwald Explains Why She’s ‘Troubled’ by ‘The Breakfast Club’ Three Decades Later
IndieWire ^ | April 6, 2018 | Zack Sharf

Posted on 04/07/2018 8:08:50 AM PDT by EveningStar

Molly Ringwald rose to prominence as John Hughes’ muse in the hit films “Sixteen Candles,” “Pretty in Pink,” and “The Breakfast Club,” but her most beloved movies are troubling her in hindsight. In a new essay for The New Yorker, Ringwald salutes and critiques her collaborations with Hughes, finding certain scenes in the director’s films to be misogynistic and homophobic. The actress makes it clear she loves Hughes and is proud of their work together, but that doesn’t mean their films should not be analyzed under a contemporary context.

While Ringwald was showing her daughter “The Breakfast Club” for the first time, the moment in which Judd Nelson’s Bender peeks up her character’s skirt stood out and made Ringwald uncomfortable. The actress writes that she “kept thinking about the scene” long after the viewing ended, and it wasn’t the first time she was forced to come to terms about its meaning.

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TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: breakfastclub; hollyweird; hughes; johnhughes; liberalagenda; mollyringwald; ringwald; thebreakfastclub
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The easiest thing in the world, is to look at old movies and TV shows, and point out things which would not be permitted today.

I toss on Blazing Saddles about once a year just to remind myself of this.

21 posted on 04/07/2018 8:18:50 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: EveningStar

The Breakfast Club was an awful movie. Like a kiddie version of The Big Chill, a bunch of whiners sitting around over-analyzing their boring lives. Blech.


22 posted on 04/07/2018 8:23:06 AM PDT by dead
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To: EveningStar
... that doesn’t mean their films should not be analyzed under a contemporary context.

But only, Molly, if the contemporary context is an improvement over the past. Think of all the dark times in history when large groups of movers thought the CC was most desirable.

23 posted on 04/07/2018 8:23:21 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" continues apace in the absence of political opposition.)
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To: T. P. Pole

“Y’all dancin’ around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.”


24 posted on 04/07/2018 8:23:23 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: EveningStar

1> Bender AND Claire were and are acting exactly like teenagers did and still do. Boys still try to peek up girls skirts and girls still secretly like the attention when they’re attracted to the boy.

2> There’s nothing wrong with that.

3> I notice Ringwald has no problem about the attacks on Bender for being a white male loser or the Jocks or the Nerds. No - those stereotypes were and are perfectly acceptable in her little peabrain of a mind because Cosmopolitian and Facebook haven’t told her to think about that.

to wit - the SJWs of this world are moving themselves further and further away from actual reality.


25 posted on 04/07/2018 8:23:43 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Smoking and MURDER.


26 posted on 04/07/2018 8:23:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: EveningStar
...but that doesn’t mean their films should not be analyzed under a contemporary context.

Well effin' duh! What's the old saying? "Time change." And they sure do. So naturally if you go back and look at art, literature, culture - anything but fundamental mathematics and physics...it has changed.

Sheesh, enjoy it for what it was when it was. Oh, and quit taking yourself so seriously. These were purely fun/funny movies - meant to be enjoyed and forgotten. Though I would like to hear the rest of the joke the one character was telling himself as he crawled through the ceiling above the tiles...

27 posted on 04/07/2018 8:24:36 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: EveningStar
Molly Ringwald is troubled because the classic teen films she made with John Hughes in the 1980s are still popular today. Young people continue to watch and enjoy them and in doing so, are introduced to an era where we weren't crushed by political correctness and ruled by endless outrage.

Yes, John Bender called her "pathetic" and "queenie", looked up her skirt, and still got her in the end. People also called each other "fags" and "faggots" without any regard. It was the 80s.

FWIW, my 8-year old son uses the above words. I don't know where he got it from. Not me. Such words out of my mouth would cost me my career.

28 posted on 04/07/2018 8:24:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: EveningStar

...and then she got fat, ugly and apparently stupid.


29 posted on 04/07/2018 8:24:45 AM PDT by Leep (Make The Swamp Small Again!)
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To: EveningStar

Who?


30 posted on 04/07/2018 8:25:18 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: EveningStar
Molly Ringwald Explains Why She’s ‘Troubled’ by ‘The Breakfast Club’ Three Decades Later

If Miss Molly is "troubled", that is her problem.

31 posted on 04/07/2018 8:25:34 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Skywise

Nah; the left tells us that these days, boys like peeking up boys’ skirts.


32 posted on 04/07/2018 8:25:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: headstamp 2

As soon as times get hard enough to weed out all the soft heads it will end up BEING like back in early Rome, or early 20 century America. “Enlightened”, wealthy, grub-like humans is not the norm...


33 posted on 04/07/2018 8:26:02 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: T. P. Pole

yep, Blazing Saddles was funny, and in my opinion, is funny but not malicious.

But that is not permitted in this politically correct era.

I think Mel Brooks was quoted as saying, that he couldn’t make Blazing Saddles today.


34 posted on 04/07/2018 8:26:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Eddie01

Well, I never thought of that. And to think it was supposed to be at the movie about diversity.


35 posted on 04/07/2018 8:26:40 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“SMOKING in the Movie “

I heard That as well just as I was
Lightning up a Marlboro!
Slowly looking over my shoulder
I felt somewhat Guilty.


36 posted on 04/07/2018 8:28:22 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: EveningStar
I can see now, Bender sexually harasses Claire throughout the film,” she continues. “When he’s not sexualizing her, he takes out his rage on her with vicious contempt, calling her ‘pathetic,’ mocking her as ‘Queenie.’ It’s rejection that inspires his vitriol…He never apologizes for any of it, but, nevertheless, he gets the girl in the end.”

The truth is that women select men, not the other way around. The stereotype of the sexually aggressive "badboy" exists because many women find it attractive. The other female character ignores Bender and is attracted the wrestler who had more respect. So, I don't think Hughes was making a universal statement, but he didn't chicken out either.

37 posted on 04/07/2018 8:28:59 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: EveningStar

Too bad she didn’t see the film for what it is.... the pathetic tale of a bunch of punks who think it is cool to break all the rules, engage in dope smoking and casual sex. All things that lead to healthy relationships and long term goal achievement.....not


38 posted on 04/07/2018 8:29:34 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Big Red Badger

“HISTORICAL Smoking”

Subtle language use to imply that nobody does that these days.


39 posted on 04/07/2018 8:29:59 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: EveningStar

One of my favorite movies that could never be replicated today is “The Bad News Bears” original (not the remake.)

Imagine a movie where the lead drives around a bunch of kids in an open convertible while smoking a cigar and drinking beer out of a can.

And then there is this famous line.

“Jews, spics, niggers, and now a girl?” - Tanner Boyle

or this exchange,

Tanner Boyle: All we got on this team are a buncha Jews, spics, niggers, pansies, and a booger-eatin’ moron!

Ogilvie: Tanner, I think you need to be reminded from time to time that you are one of the few people on this team who is not a Jew, spic, nigger, pansy or a booger-eating moron. So you’d better cool it or we may be disposed to beat the crap out of you.


40 posted on 04/07/2018 8:31:30 AM PDT by junkbond (My time is not your commodity.)
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