GRUESOME NSFW VIDEO: FATHER, SON SHOOT BAT-WIELDING NEIGHBOR DURING HEATED SHOWDOWN

infowars.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 20, 2018 | Abilene Police/Star-Telegram

[gunsequalfreedom]

sickening. They need to spend the rest of their days in jail.

[Blood of Tyrants]

If his wife had been smart, she would have tried to get her husband to calm down instead of just videoing it.

[Kartographer]

Four shots at least two were from the 12 ga.

[Deaf Smith]

If one handles bedbug infested stuff, they will readily climb on you and then you take them home.

FYI, the box spring and bed frame will be worse.

[DiogenesLamp]

You don’t think the decedent deserves any responsibility for antagonizing and threatening to kill them?

[DiogenesLamp]

You are right. She should have told him that she didn't want him messing with people who had guns.

He was probably trying to show her how brave he was, and had she not been there, he might have done the more sensible thing and left.

[DiogenesLamp]

I guess I missed the part where they mentioned the mattress was infected with bed bugs. I think the objection was over space in the dumpster though.

[Blue Jays]

"...arbiter of definitions..."

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Agreed. Lots of techniques to contemplate here and this video truly illustrates the unpredictability that is real life.
To my mind the fact Mr. Orange Shirt is a spittle-foaming and screaming man in the face of drawn guns points to his instability.
They would almost have had to back-up with guns drawn...and hope the slow-speed retreat didn’t encourage Mr. Orange Shirt to attack.

[wgmalabama]

Known bully and criminal shot by people who called the cops many times. Probably were told by cops to shoot him next time they were threatened. That’s my guesss. Disclaimer- I’m a known idiot that jumps to conclusions.

[Kartographer]

I think one problem they will have is that at least one of the fout shots were after he was down and on the ground.

[Deaf Smith]

Was not missed.

All furniture and bedding you see out on the curb is bedbug. The situation is that bad.

Abilene,TX has TV commercials for bedbug services.

In 2017, DFW was in top ten for bedbugs in the US

[OKSooner]

Yes, and then when their wives get home tell them all about what a couple of bad-asses they are...

Everyone's happy, and alive.

[DiogenesLamp]

Bring back DDT.

[HamiltonJay]

Agreed. How are these two out on bail? Let alone $25k??

[HamiltonJay]

I agree. I don’t understand how this man and his wife are arguing with 2 armed men...

[flamberge]

Looked like mutual combat in a public right-of-way (the alley) to me.

The Texas "Castle Doctrine" will not apply.

"Self-defense" will not apply.

The shooters appeared to have provoked the incident, thus losing the presumption of innocence needed for a self-defense claim.

The decedent was an absolute fool to repeatedly threaten to kill two armed men, and lunge at them, as a response to the situation.

The Texas equivalent to a charge of voluntary manslaughter would seem to be appropriate. Might be garnished with an additional charge of assault with a deadly weapon (against the wife, when they ordered her at gunpoint to "get on the ground").

Could go either way before a jury.

[Deaf Smith]

Apparently, the US is in the minority of countries that use DDT.

Three producers/exporters: China, India and N Korea.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

So people don’t commit gruesome murders in other countries?

[Rebelbase]

My GF is currently on a five day road trip with her airman son returning to his base. I told her to pay the extra money and stay in the most expensive hotels they can find along the highway to avoid bed bugs.

Yesterday she called and said “you got us scared to death every time we get an itch”.

[Tammy8]

I don’t see it as entertainment in any way. I see it as informative since likely so many FReepers have firearms.

This will turn out to be interesting for several reasons, Texas is a state that gives a lot of leeway to protecting life and property so will be interesting what happens legally. Many legal issues can be brought into this, which may change the way shootings that may or not turn out to be ruled self defense.

In order to really try to understand the true situation it is good to have video to watch if possible. This video shows demeanor of the people and that can be important in a shooting defense.

No one has to go watch that video, that is a choice.