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GRUESOME NSFW VIDEO: FATHER, SON SHOOT BAT-WIELDING NEIGHBOR DURING HEATED SHOWDOWN
infowars.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 20, 2018 | Abilene Police/Star-Telegram

Posted on 09/20/2018 6:15:29 PM PDT by papertyger

A Texas father-son duo are charged with murder after a dispute with a neighbor over a mattress turned deadly, shocking video shot by the deceased man’s wife appears to show. Warning – Graphic Footage: Viewer discretion strongly advised

In video of the Sept. 1 incident released Wednesday, Kara Box captured her husband Aaron Howard arguing over trash in their Abilene alleyway with next-door neighbors John Miller, 67, and his son Michael Miller, 31. “We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box commented on the video, according to The Star-Telegram. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”

Box says the Millers grabbed the mattress out of the dumpster and threw it on Howard’s property, sparking a shouting match between the neighbors. “Michael Miller who lives with his father ran went inside their home and got a shotgun,” The Telegram wrote in a Sept. 2 article following the incident. “Someone went into Howard’s home and retrieved a baseball bat.” The showdown ended with Howard shot after he stepped forward following a threat from Miller, who warned, “If you come within 3 feet of me, I’m going to kill you.” The Millers were arrested later that day. The Telegram reports they have since posted a $25,000 bail.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 1stdegreemurder; aaronhoward; abilene; alley; banglist; box; donotremovetags; goobers; howard; infowars; johnmiller; kansas; karabox; mattress; mattresswars; michaelmiller; miller; texas
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Interesting that they're out on basicly pro forma bail.
1 posted on 09/20/2018 6:15:29 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

Dead over a mattress in a dumpster.


2 posted on 09/20/2018 6:22:05 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: papertyger

These two put themselves in horrible legal jeopardy. If you already have a gun and someone is threatening you; if you leave and come back with a gun, you no longer can claim you were standing your ground. You also can be thought of as having shown intent.

The best move for those two was, when back at the house, would have been to retrieve the firearms and made ready (just in case), and then to have sat down and popped a beer.


3 posted on 09/20/2018 6:25:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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Sounds like neighbors who deserved each other. But never bring a baseball bat to a gunfight. From the story it sounds like the shotgun got there first.

My neighbors aren’t particularly friendly, but I could do a lot worse.


4 posted on 09/20/2018 6:25:35 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: papertyger

James4:1 What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you?


5 posted on 09/20/2018 6:26:08 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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Stupid man arguing with and threatening people holding guns.


6 posted on 09/20/2018 6:26:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: papertyger

The United States is really screwed up.


7 posted on 09/20/2018 6:26:51 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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White trash all the way around.


8 posted on 09/20/2018 6:28:38 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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“Never argue over a mattress.”

I’ve always said that.


9 posted on 09/20/2018 6:28:55 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Free Republic Needs Your Monthly Donations!!!)
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Threatening two guys with guns. Really? Man, people believe themselves to be invincible.


10 posted on 09/20/2018 6:29:25 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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That's the world we now live in, for most life other than their own has little to no value. I personally have been threateded for less. It will only get worse and woe to my grandchildren.

"Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
11 posted on 09/20/2018 6:29:59 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Probably one of many of a long list of arguments between them, culminating in this one.

Yow.


12 posted on 09/20/2018 6:30:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: blueunicorn6

brought a mattress to a gunfight


13 posted on 09/20/2018 6:31:41 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Lazamataz
If you already have a gun and someone is threatening you; if you leave and come back with a gun, you no longer can claim you were standing your ground. You also can be thought of as having shown intent.

If I read correctly, the father was armed when he went outside, but the son is the one who returned to the house to retrieve a shotgun.

I find it very curious that the two men got out on such a nominal amount of bail. Perhaps there is more history to this than the paper lets on.

14 posted on 09/20/2018 6:31:58 PM PDT by papertyger
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These people do no represent “the united states”.


15 posted on 09/20/2018 6:32:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Is there an address to which I can send a couple shirts?


16 posted on 09/20/2018 6:32:24 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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"...dead right..."


Unsure how a disagreement over garbage led to this, yet becoming unhinged at two relatively calm men already holding firearms is incredibly moronic.

17 posted on 09/20/2018 6:33:49 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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amateurs. if you're going to shoot a guy over a mattress in a dumpster, you definitely shoot the chick taking the video with her iPhone.
18 posted on 09/20/2018 6:34:19 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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Ok, well, that changes things a little... HOWEVER I still feel that there was a duty to retreat. I would have left, then called the police about the death threats Orange Shirt was making. Get the cop to retrieve Wifey’s phone.


19 posted on 09/20/2018 6:34:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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I’m fine if they hang them, but nothing will happen. In China they would have a quick trial and get a bullet to the back of the head.


20 posted on 09/20/2018 6:35:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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