Posted on 11/25/2018 10:27:16 AM PST by qaz123
The Justice Department is about to indict Julian Assange, the editor of WikiLeaks. That’s according to various reports.
The Democrats are cheering because surely Assange will reveal some deep secrets about Russians and the last presidential election.
In the first place, the media of the world should be coming to Assange’s defense. He was, after all, breaking news just like the press does.
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Sorry, EPU. The Seth Rich/Change My Mind meme was meant for qaz.
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Difficult to argue your point, but I think the hurt came from within the Republican Party, not from outside. Ryan, et al could have done much, much more. And still can. But, they’ve all been exposed for being the partisan, greedy political hacks they all are.
What kills me more than anything, is People like Ernst in Iowa getting elected and being able to stay there. Her recent statement on keeping the border open in nothing more than her saying what she’s told to say by the big corn growers, chicken and pig farmers are telling her to say. She may as well have someone else’s hand up her butt when she opens her mouth.
You, I and many others have been aware for a lot longer than the average Joe. And we kept our oaths and didn’t really spread any real warnings/alerts......w/o Snowden, many of those who now have a clue would still be totally ignorant, and since he’s a fugitive, they still have doubts about the message he put out.
Secondly, it wouldn't matter if the info is completely useless. If you steal and release classified information to our enemies (or anyone, for that matter), it's still espionage and treason. It should still by you an execution, or a lifetime imprisoned, at least.
You are a veteran, but you don't believe that those in our armed services shouldn't have to follow their COs orders, or follow the UCMJ, or any other laws? I'm pretty sure that would be the end of our military if anyone can just do what they please, including the release of vast amounts of classified information, just because they feel like it.
Anyone who doesn't believe that Manning Assange hijinks greatly damaged U.S. interests is being willfully blind. For example, how much valuable intel did we loose, because informants didn't trust us to keep information secret? Terrorists benefited greatly from Wikileaks. And by the way, Obama was an accomplice of Assaange and Manning, and sprung Manning from a well deserved jail cell. The far left cheered Assange, and they knew he was doing their work. Let's compare Assange/Manning to Snowden. There is a chance that Snbowden was a Russian spy all along. But if not, what Snowden did was completely different than Assange. Snowden disclosed a specific set of information for the benefit of the public. What he did was against the law, but it fit into the traditional whistle blower model.
What Assange did was completely different. He got as much classified information as possible and released it all. Tere was no release of info to benefit the public. Some of this diplomatic information could have or might have started wars. It damage the international affairs interested of the U.S. and many of out allies. It helped terrorists and dictators.
You are also ignoring one fact that media likes to cover up. Assange had his own objectives for doing this, but most likely he was backed by some foreign power, and they were just using him. I'm not sure if Manning knew that, but Assange almost certainly did. Most likely China, North Korea, Russia or some other country used this to disguise their espionage. I'm not trying to insult you, I just think you shouldn't believe everything the left wing media tells you. Nothing Assange did caused Hillary Clinton to lose the 2016 election. That is so much hogwash. I wouldn't be surprised if Assange had connections to Hillary.
Julian Assange is a nihilist who suborned treason against the U.S. and released vast amounts of classified information resulting from that crime. He didn't do any of that to help the U.S., and it didn't help the country. Then Obama pardoned Assange's co-conspirator, so future traitor's can be assured that they will get a slap on the wrist if they commit treason.
And do you really believe the hogwash that he helped defeat Hillary? Were you going to vote for Hillary before whatever Assange allegedly released? I didn't think so.
Where did I ever say that? You're getting ridiculous.
Julian Assange has stated numerous times that the DNC emails he posted on Wikileaks DID NOT come from the Russians!
I believe him.......
Do you think he's lying and if so, for what purpose?
He has no allegiance to either party and the information he has and is keeping to himself, is the only thing that is going to keep him out of prison should he ever be extradited to the U.S........
Bump.
So, basically, everything you wrote is your personal opinion about how it all went down, was covered up, and people protected.
You could possibly be an intel guy that has access to the highest level’s of information about this country or you could just be a guy wearing a tin foil hat.
The military conducted an investigation? The results of the investigation found the release of information didn’t have any negative consequences, more or less. If you know different, than that would me you have a TS/SCI, TS/SA or Yankee clearance, that only few have and have access to the most sensitive files in the DoD. But, I do not think you have that access. I think you’re letting your personal feelings about something you know little about, and knee jerking a response to justify the fact that some people, like myself, don’t share your feelings about Assange. And since we’re not aligned with you, we’re wrong.
How much valuable intel did we loose because informants didn’t trust us? You tell me since you have such deep access. I’ve dealt with informants before, have you? Nothing but over emotional speculation on your part.
Terrorists benefited greatly from Wikileaks?.....How so? Please describe how they did that. More emotions, not fact.
obama was an accomplice? .... Again, more emotion built on personal feelings. However, I think obama did what he did with the he/she because of his hatred for all things American and he knew it would piss off, at least half of the country. Not because he was in league with them. What the he/she did was before obama’s time, but if obama was such a supporter, why didn’t he grant Assange asylum and grant him immunity for all of that?
In closing, I do not agree with everything that Assange has done. As I’ve stated. But, until proven otherwise, the DOD states that the information he received and disseminated from the he/she, didn’t do the damage that people stated initially. However, if he’s disseminating information about our government doing dirty sh*t against you, me and everyone else, then I support the guy.
Look, qaz, I agree that the Deep State and the left are in full collusion and need to be stopped. However, Assange is definitely not on our side. He has MORE than made this clear. And for the record, his leaks HAVE in fact led to intelligence ops being ruined, and endangering the lives of countless soldiers. And I’ve got PLENTY of sources to back that claim up:
*https://www.nationalreview.com/2010/11/assange-anti-american-rich-lowry/
*https://canadafreepress.com/article/radical-leftist-julian-assange-plays-god-leaking-us-documents
And BTW, Canada Free Press has plenty more on there regarding Assange and what he’s truly like. I might as well also point out that he adheres to Marxist-Leninist principles, meaning he’s NOT our ally, period (I hold utter disgust towards communists of ANY stripe thanks to how they slaughtered us Christians like pigs, and quite frankly, him holding to Marxist-Leninist views is more than enough for me to at the very least be sorely tempted to put a bullet in his head if we ever cross paths). It’s like saying Stalin’s a good guy just because he fought against Hitler.
*http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/09/cryptography-weapon-fight-empire-states-julian-assange%23start-of-comments
And as an FYI, he’s also deeply tied to George Soros as well, meaning allying with him is ultimately allying with the deep state, and it is naïve to think allying with him means ending the deep state.
As far as Snowden, leaking documents to the Chinese and Russians, and even seeking asylum in those countries points to him just being a traitor, not a whistleblower. If he were truly concerned with whistleblowing, he would have just done the stuff that the guys who made the Clinton Chronicles documentaries did, which is risk his life collecting evidence and THEN issue that information to the GOP, or any person he found trustworthy enough to issue the information and bring them to justice. Those guys at least risked their lives, many even paying the full price, just to expose the crimes Clinton did. And they didn’t even get our enemies involved either via an alliance.
Just in case you don’t believe my claim that he’s tied to Soros, just look at this:
http://sorosfiles.com/soros/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Trevor-Loudon-Assange.pdf
Hi.
Normally, in a sane world, Manning and Snowden should be executed, and Assange a sanctioned hit (pick a country).
Now I’m not so sure.
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