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Sexual harassment in the sky: Hong Kong flight attendants fight back
AFP ^ | Dec 9, 2018

Posted on 12/09/2018 10:33:14 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They have a tough job. Be nice, always the best policy.


21 posted on 12/09/2018 12:53:54 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: az_gila
I am lousy at posting pics here on FR, but if would like to recommend using a search engine to see what I consider some of the most attractive and best dressed stewardesses in the world: Emirate Airlines.
22 posted on 12/09/2018 1:02:41 PM PST by Robwin (very)
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To: Robwin
I am lousy at posting pics here on FR, but if would like to recommend using a search engine to see what I consider some of the most attractive and best dressed stewardesses in the world: Emirate Airlines.

Here you go:


23 posted on 12/09/2018 1:17:51 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Redwood71
Really? I'd wager just about everything I own that 98% of male “flight attendants” are whoopsies.
24 posted on 12/09/2018 1:21:48 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
I get tired of reading about this. There is no reason for this behavior. Men have got to learn to control themselves.

Guys like to flirt with attractive women. It's part of our nature. It's what makes companies want to put attractive women in customer-facing jobs.

If having attractive women results in complaints about male attention, it will result in companies deciding to not hire attractive women. This creates an incentive for unattractive women to increase their market value by making a big deal about harassment.

Note that I am not excusing nor condoning men who perform actual illegal acts against women.

25 posted on 12/09/2018 1:31:27 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625

I saw a sign at Surigao airport, Philippines, advertising openings for flight attendants. It gave acceptable age, height, and weight ranges, and asked for a pleasant personality, good complexion, and a nice set of teeth.


26 posted on 12/09/2018 1:44:58 PM PST by Stevenfo
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To: az_gila

[Well this one is still around, but the hot pants and boots of the 70’s are long gone....:^)]


I expect Southwest’s present set of vaguely middle-aged (or older) flight attendants wouldn’t look quite as good in those uniforms.


27 posted on 12/09/2018 2:07:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Guys like to flirt with attractive women. It's part of our nature.

Your response is a non sequitur, because my comments weren't about flirting. The behavior described in this article groping and other physical contact without consent are "illegal acts against women".

28 posted on 12/09/2018 2:32:13 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Your statement was "Men have got to learn to control themselves", taking isolated incidents of illegal behavior (groping) and projecting it onto men as a class, as something men as a class need to address.

You would probably have a negative response to somebody saying "women need to stop being sluts".

Yes, some men grope. Some men murder and engage in acts of genocide, too (and women do various illegal acts too). Yet saying "men (as a class) need to learn to control themselves" is not a productive plan.

29 posted on 12/09/2018 2:44:27 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625
I get your point in that it's not all men, but I've seen enough of it to know it's a major problem.

It's not the only problem. "Patronizing" the "products" of abusive pimps and human traffickers is even worse.

I don't hate men or group them all into this class, but I read articles about this or the billions men spend on prostitutes every year in this country alone, not to mention what I've seen on the streets, and I don't like what I see. Do you?

With God's grace men can be better than this.

30 posted on 12/09/2018 2:55:23 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: az_gila
I think KLM flight attendants look great. I realize they don't all look like this, but I do like the uniform color too.


31 posted on 12/09/2018 3:02:27 PM PST by Pappy Smear
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I, I, I. . . I. . . can’t even.


32 posted on 12/09/2018 3:10:09 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: az_gila

THere’s nothing wrong with those outfits.


33 posted on 12/09/2018 3:13:27 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yup I look forward to my Emirates business class flight this month :).


34 posted on 12/09/2018 3:14:45 PM PST by the_individual2014
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Not all of them. We’re fallen creatures. Moreover the bad ones were made that way.


35 posted on 12/09/2018 3:16:30 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Pappy Smear

Dutch women can be gorgeous.


36 posted on 12/09/2018 3:17:55 PM PST by the_individual2014
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To: PapaBear3625
At one time, stewardesses (this is what they were originally called) were required to be young, attractive and unmarried. This was as recently as the 1960s. If a stewardess decided to become married, she was summarily fired by the airline. If a stewardess put on too many pounds, she was also fired.

Below are job requirements from an actual classified ad from the NYT in 1966 for a stewardess:

A high school graduate, single (widows and divorcees with no children considered), 20 years of age (girls 19 1/2 may apply for future consideration). 5'2" but no more than 5'9", weight 105 to 135 in proportion to height and have at least 20/40 vision without glasses

In fact, a major recruiting point for the airlines was that a young attractive woman could find herself a husband working for their airline. She could then move on, have some babies, and make room for the next young pretty woman to have her chance. The whole "coffee, tea or me" way of putting it is rather vulgar but in reality, the airlines did not discourage at all the notion of stewardesses finding themselves a husband among the passengers. Having attractive stewardesses - all of which were available - no doubt helped the airlines sell tickets and so they would vie for the prettiest young ladies to join their crews.

It was a simpler time in America, where women were encouraged to "have adventures" early on but were then expected to find a husband, have some children and spend the rest of her days as a happy housewife and mother.

37 posted on 12/09/2018 3:27:48 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
The whole "coffee, tea or me" way of putting it is rather vulgar but in reality, the airlines did not discourage at all the notion of stewardesses finding themselves a husband among the passengers.

Which comes back to my post #4. Back in those days of high prices, a lot of the passengers were businessmen. Being a stewardess would allow an attractive woman an opportunity to meet successful professionals, chat with them in a relaxed setting, and perhaps arrange to meet them in a destination city where the businessman would be alone in an unfamiliar place, but where the stewardess would know places to go and things to do.

38 posted on 12/09/2018 3:40:54 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Redwood71

My son is drop dead attractive.

He is 23 and the attention he gets from females is embarrassing for him, and he is no shrinking violet.

They walk up to him at gas pumps and in stores. He walks backwards a lot to avoid their touch. They discuss his appearance. Some are more forthright.

They may be attractive women, but he is wary of women who are aggressive in that manner.

He reasoned to me, hell if they are doing this to me, where else have they been?

Yuck.


39 posted on 12/09/2018 4:56:20 PM PST by Chickensoup (Never count on anyone, ever.)
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To: SamAdams76

It was also a time where men and women from different education backgrounds teamed together to make a family.

Marrying in your education cohort was not necessary because back then it was admitted that one parent, mostly mom, would stay home with the children while dad provided.

So Lawyers married nurses, Doctors married nurses and teachers, and so forth.


40 posted on 12/09/2018 5:01:54 PM PST by Chickensoup (Never count on anyone, ever.)
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