Posted on 11/10/2023 9:53:17 AM PST by old-ager
Sez Uncle Tony: "When we heard that the new for 2025 Ram Ramcharger EV was going to be equipped with a gasoline powered generator to be used as a "range extender", it seemed like a practical and novel answer to the issue of range anxiety. " The reality is they've created an over stuffed, over complicated, oversized Frankenstein that has no accurate classification within the current world of vehicles. It's not an EV, It's not a Hybrid and it's not anything that could ever be considered sustainable."
That's my take. But the more you read about it the more they advertise it as never needing to be plugged in. In other words, the 6-cyl engine isn't just a range extender, it's the range generator.
That's what changed my mind from, "Ya know, there could be some use cases where a truck like this is practical" to, "Ya know, that's about the dumbest thing I've heard since my ex-mother-in-law quit speaking to me" (thank you Jesus LOL) .
I felt bad for this guy, because he seemed frustrated that he had to expand on this stupidity and explain it to people.
Anyone with half a brain will think:
“Okay. You have a fully battery powered vehicle, runs on batteries, with those big heavy batteries, instrumentation, etc. But. If you run down your batteries, you can start up an onboard V-6 in much the same way as a diesel electric train is run by diesel generators that run the electric motors. So you add on additional weight for the V-6, and use up additional space for the V-6, in addition to the space and weight for the gasoline or diesel. How is this any kind of advantage over a ICE powered truck, except for the torque?”
This sounds like politically driven idiocy.
>> But I wouldn’t trust Chrysler with that level of complexity
Sounds like this may be the long-awaited manifestation of the Antichrysler. 😆
You have got to be kidding.
Yes! Lol.
“Includes a 3.6 liter V6 to power on-board electric generator. The engine has no mechanical coupling to the drive train.“
Nucknig futs. Absolutely idiotic
“How is this any kind of advantage over a ICE powered truck, except for the torque?””
One advantage is the engine can be designed to run at optimal load and rpm and not lose energy through mechanical losses in transmission and rest of drivetrain. But then you have to subtract due to charging inefficiencies and battery and e-motor weight. So it seems dumb overall.
Yeah, it’s crazy lol
That’s how diesel-electric locomotives work. Also giant dumptrucks at strip mines etc. It’s not unproven technology, but a neighborhood mechanic won’t usually have the knowledge; you’d have to go to a railroad maintenance facility.
Every single one of them scum' bitches deserves to lose their jobs, and GM/Ford/Stellantis deserve to go the way of the dinosaur.
If only there were a way to turn gasoline internal combustion engine torque in to rotational power for the wheels....
More stupidity driven by government regulations. NO WAY any board of directors would approve this stupid idea without government subsidies and mandates.
Ramcharger, eh? In the olden days we called that raw oysters and a week of abstinence from booze and women.
> use case
You know, as a software engineer for thirty years, I was just thinking of not looking forward to the day when I started seeing this stupid term on FR. Thanks!
What are the batteries and electric drive for, on the pickup truck?
What percentage of pickups do you see with empty beds?
Won’t this truck have all of the problems of EV batteries AND electromechanical engine maintenance?
The pickup truck is a totally different, eh, “use case” than the machine you point to, which is very special.
I think I know the “use case.” It is to tick off some really stupid, wasteful, hypocritical and dangerous check boxes.
_Maybe_ the Dodge truck captures energy from braking. I don’t know. What percent of total energy is recovered?
What happens to the energy lost by the dual conversion from the V6?
Nice try.
> diesel-electric locomotives
Yes, I know. That’s been around maybe 70-80 years.
Not especially relevant to pickemup trucks.
Certainly isn’t. The more mechanical, the better in that case. The laws of thermodynamics haven’t changed.
I would think for something small like a car or light truck the cost of a transmission is less than all the copper windings for a diesel (gasoline) electric
Was reading about a Jeep th other day, less than 30 mile range on the battery, then you burn gas. Idiotic.
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