Posted on 04/11/2024 6:25:40 PM PDT by Jonty30
IM motors has decided that semi solid-state batteries are ready for prime time. In an omen of what Western automakers will need to contend with, it's now launched a futuristic luxury coupe with a next-gen battery pack and crab-walking capability. The high-density lithium batteries we enjoy today were an absolute technological revolution. They blew rechargeable nickel-cadmium and nickel-metal-hydride batteries out of the water, offering such a leap in energy storage by weight and volume that suddenly all sorts of things became possible.
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lol facts are a stubborn thing, what exactly are you going to charge these batteries with. Charging rate and range won’t matter if there is not enough electricity or a grid to support these EVs
Putting cart before the horse. As i said what difference does it make if vehicles have longer range and faster charge if you need a diesel generator to charge it
Great math skills. Now use them to see how that works with 290 million vehicles needing a charge on top of current energy consumption. How many acres need to be mined to produce batteries for these 290 million cars? How many charging stations will be needed since not everybody has a garage to park in?
Your solutions are typical of everything that comes out of academia. They are very narrow in scope with tightly controlled variables. With that in mind, you may want to question some of the dogma your profs fed you.
Even in the cherriest of scenarios, there is no way to get there by 2030. The cost is impossible.
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After 620 miles I can fill my car up within a minute with the battery with an electric car. You have to charge it for. I don’t know how long to fill it up again an hour more?
“Solid state is the future and it will end the ICE for all urban”
Then why does the government have to pass laws which require people to buy EVs? Why does the government have to give $7500 tax credits to people who buy EVs? They didn’t have to give tax credits to people to buy a Model T 100 years ago. Saying “its the future” is just saying bend over and grab your ankles, here comes the government.
We can get 700 miles in an ICE whenever we want- Put in a 25 gallon tank. EV zealots are strange, probably have all their money in Tesla stock. But it is mostly Democrats buying the EVs, while they are waiting at the charging station they can’t do as much ballot trafficking so the EV is a win-win.
crab-walking capability
What is “crab-walking capability”?
Even though I am retired, I signed up for a chemistry course ( for STEM majors) this year. This week we are studying the electro-chemical properties of batteries. Very interesting!
“Tesla won the charger standard battle “
All the kilowatts are generated by burning coal and natural gas.
Let me repeat that
All the kilowatts are generated by burning coal and natural gas.
The rewiring of the infrastructure seems impossible.
Not enough copper on the planet.
My guess is that the car can slide sideways for easy parking at the curb. Like a crab walks.
You don’t seem to understand motivation.
once you get > 600 miles, you need to rest.
I had a 2001 turbo diesel beetle. It had a 600 mile range. at 70 MPH average, you can drive for 8.5 hours, straight. Once I drove from Houston to Austin and then onto Dallas on one tank. I don’t want to drive more than that. And if it takes only 10-20 min to fill up (either diesel or battery), nobody cares.
Stop whining Diesel or Gas or Electric. Start thinking about how people drive, behavior, and cost.
I can’t imagine what is involved in replacing one or more of those battery units.
Indeed. How much voltage must be pumped in at what amperage to give a 15-min charging time? Now consider a small service station with just 10 charging stations. What do the power lines to that station look like? How much infrastructure will have to be built to deliver THAT much power reliably to ALL the various stations that would be required? Who is going to pay to upgrade the power lines in remote (or even semi-remote) locations?
The $450k price tag for this EV is a bit daunting. I am certain that EV battery technology will get better over time, but I do not foresee EV technology being able to fully replace ICE for some time. Farm machinery would be very hard to move from diesel to battery simply because of the lack of charging capability in the middle of a field. Electric powered fire trucks or ambulances …I wouldn’t bet my life on either. Rural areas and areas with brutal cold winters are also not very suitable for EVs.
For YOUR use. If it's installed, the feds can use it.
To make a battery car better than gasoline powered is more than range and recharge time. Those are important, but not the only issues. Some other factors.
1. Weight - wears out tires and brakes fast, those things have costs
2. Battery life - as batteries age, they lose capacity, and my experience is as they age their capacity becomes unpredictable. I have a lithium tool battery that shows 100% charge but runs out in 50% of the normal time because it is old. Batteries how both a limited number of re-charges and an age limit. Gasoline powered to not see reductions in range over time.
3. Replacement cost - the cost of replacing a battery pack. Gasoline engines go over 300k miles and replacing one can be in the $5k range or so. What is the cost of replacing a battery pack.
4. Compatibility. As technology moves on, will replacement battery packs even be available for older battery cars. Engines have no problem with this.
5. Insurance - when battery cars have wrecks the battery can be compromised which many times totals the car - basically, if you would bend a car frame in a wreck the similar wreck breaks the battery. Higher insurance costs for sure, but total a car and getting an insurance payout does not keep a person whole financially. Frames can be fixed though.
6. Infrastructure. Quick recharge times mean several things. Usually it means the battery is wearing faster during re-charging reducing its life and capacity. The amount of power required to feed the charger in a short time frame is large. Power stations and transmission lines are not designed for this and are not improving. Very long lead times to make this happen, if at all.
7. Repairs. Both gasoline and battery cars will suffer from the added technology being put in them. In 10 years, when a computer board goes out, replacements are not manufactured because chip and board designs have moved on. No one can create replacement boards for older cars. There is a limited number of replacement electronic parts that are created during the original manufacturing run and when those are gone, there are no more replacement computer parts.
What are the weight/volume to power ratio comparisons?
What are the weight/volume to power ratio comparisons?
If there IS a USA in fifty years. And if the left has failed in their efforts to limit travel (which equals FREEDOM) to the elite.
A new cottage industry is born...disabling the disabler!
80’s Prelude?
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